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Religious Bias?

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Religious Bias?

Published: Tue, 10 Nov 2009

Description: Alan confronts Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association for wanting to ban all Muslims from the U.S. Military

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" Well the problem is that the more due out. A Moslem is the greater threat he represents to our national security. And until we have some way of the depth of flying which Moslems are the ones that we have to worry about. We just cannot afford to take the chance the military is not a club. There's no right to serve in the military it's -- protect the security of the American people and it -- the Muslim community could come up with a fool -- way for us to identify. Which Moslems were gonna go off for American soldiers. And support us in -- him out of the military. Then there would be away for Muslims took."

" I do now Ryan there's no foolproof way to prove anything ahead of time. I want well that's that's another origin you even you know you're offering a solution that doesn't exist. This is no foolproof way. Two ahead of time to know the than anybody is gonna do -- thing I know you can point to what happened. You know whether recruiting. Station. Where people were one soldier was killed he can point to this but -- the what 5000. Or maybe 3000 Muslims to serve in the military. We have an isolated a couple of isolated incidents. And it based on that you wanna encourage everybody of that faith for the military that sounds pretty disproportionate."

" Well Alan do you think that this major cost conscious have been drummed out of the military before last Thursday."

" I think that the FBI's had done its job and and they had information which thing it's teams from indications that they did they should've acted on it but that's not. Oh well now let me finish answering but the solution isn't. To then remove every Muslim the military the solution is at the FBI they have credible actionable intelligence. To act on that's what the problem --"

" Well Alan you I'm sure you follow this story you know the behavior the conduct the decisions that things that this guy said that things that this guy wrote. I think the people he was --"

" So one guy you want all Muslims now you're no one got talent."

" We don't know how alum I'm asking you to tell me win in this process. Show us on that -- that should have been drummed out of military it was win win that he."

" in your but this is not the argument we -- could have been drawn out along time ago -- arguing that every Muslim get drowned out -- I'm asking you know you know you're changing the argument what are you doing another excuse me let me do -- I'll conduct the interview because you're statement. Is that every Muslim should be drowned out the FBI didn't do its job they should get death this guy out. Whenever they had -- information that he. Had a job hottest views he should've been out -- okay you -- every single Muslim out of the military and oil."

" At what. Point did he crossed the line and should have been kicked out."

" Let -- turn that around January suggesting he crossed the line the minute they we knew he was a --"

" Well Alan the more deep -- come Moslem is -- more of a threat he represents those."

" Well how is that we have 3000 Muslims the military and may be one or two have committed heinous these kinds of heinous acts. Well -- you can say that about an especially if that's the percentages. Why would you drama out 99.9. 9% of people who like every other American in the military does their job beautifully."

" Well except those aren't the percentages of survey that was done a couple of years ago indicated that 26%. Of the Moslems. In the United States support homicide bombings. The Muslims themselves well tell us say is only about 10% of Muslims around the world that are interested. In terrorist attacks okay fine let's -- we've got 5000 the military according to their own estimates that means that we have 500. Members of the current military right now. That -- hottest."

" And that remark that we're actually we have been trying to tell the truth and we get them out of luck in this case they had me again you way to go up by SI can did you weigh them when they identified in the military that."

" The way they identified this guy that they knew that he had contact with people they knew they had contact with al-Qaeda they -- had been saying saying things on web -- the same when you know about this -- they know that about anybody -- the man of the military but -- to -- everybody out because they -- practitioner of a particular faith. When there have been. You can count on one hand the number of people of this faith who committed these heinous acts. What you're doing is you're blasting an -- and an entire religion. Based on the actions of a very very few and that that that's --"

" No no not I'm not I'm saying -- they believe in a religion that teaches that it is their duty to kill him."

" Say every Muslim. Every Muslim problem that's slightly at one or two incidents like this that the."

" Well because they're not following their faith or not they've -- real Muslims know that you -- on the -- opera -- that means that what they do when they sign up they have to promise us that they will never take their release."

" Yeah there really isn't either their real Muslims in your view and should be -- down or because they haven't done any thing. Heinous they're not real Muslims in which case it's not a problem."

" So as long as you can get some kind of -- guarantee. From them that they -- never ever take their religions seriously."

" Now and and I don't that's your that's your take on and I don't believe -- religious test -- at the we have so many Muslims millions living in the United States peacefully. However we have a billion in the world a one point 1000000001 point two billion in the world living peacefully and you every time there is an incident. When a so called Muslim in the name of Muhammed. And they're probably bash tonight into religion does something. Then people like yourself say we gotta get rid of all of them."

" The military is not a plot its purpose is to defend the security of the American people. Nobody has any right to serve in the united states military."

" I don't say that that is their widespread problem. Yeah see evidence of -- talent -- we've got thirteen soldiers dead. And 31 in the hospital and -- right based on the actions of how many people. There is a probably -- had let on but mr. Fisher based on the actions of how many people. Alan it doesn't matter antimatter doesn't it doesn't matter because it's not endemic it's one person."

" Okay well fine -- How how how can you tell me to identify those people before they go."

" Did we but you can't identify you can't coil Allen you can then -- that somebody's not gonna go crazy. Any reason."

" Just made my argument form that you cannot."

" You can't tell that anybody's gonna go crazy if somebody goes crazy because they're on anti depressants and they go nuts chewing them remove the military everybody's on anti depressants."

" Now we're talking about people who work pot in their holy book. That there most sacred responsibility. Is to kill Americans."

" If this was a problem they would be widespread where's the widespread problem this is an isolated incident -- an -- I'll tell you it's widespread."

" Okay you say it's not a widespread. To. Fight it. It's not a widespread problem I would agree with you how many American soldiers are you willing to sacrifice to Islam --"

" I was willing to sacrifice any body want to point out where we don't -- their Fisher for you to take an isolated incident. And extrapolate from that the idea that every Muslim should be -- the military sounds like. Sounds like hatred of Muslims it sounds like an you don't call that you make believe it's not the Kyoto but it's Islam phobia that's -- that's what it is."

" Alum I'm taking Islam seriously I'm I'm taking Islam more seriously. Then they do the Koran teaches and I'm quoting from the holy book of Islam that true believers fight for the cause of god but the infidels by for the double. Fight then against. The friends. Of satan make war on them."

" Do you take the old testament and new testament literally got religion shells rained so the take -- a new testament literally from a Christian Allen will is there I there's incredible violence by the teaching of the new test this incredible violence in the Bible."

" You can you find me one verse in the new testament that teaches me to go out and kill it now -- and kill."

" Where all the Muslims are going out killing people words."

" Well Alan we use that it's not widespread I agree with -- we just had thirteen US soldiers killed by a -- how many American soldiers are they going to sack --"

" Well I I and how many miles -- you wanted discriminated against because of the active one is a question you hold down once and it going to take a break."

" Fisher director -- analysis. For government and public policy the American. Family association by the way Wall Street Journal piece today says mr. -- the military has worked hard to recruit more Muslims since the start of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Because the military and I quote desperately needs. The Muslim soldiers for their language skills and cultural knowledge as a military -- it's noon."

" Well I'm not sure that the chief of staff the army's chief of staff knows what he's doing. Could you know he's out there are saying oh yeah he's out there he's now they're saying that diversity is higher priority in the military and -- of the third."

" So now that's not what he's saying he's not here he is he has sent here and I'm glad you're making this about one guy committed a heinous act. All of you how -- are ignoring the need -- and fury in Florida."

" Of the army chief of staff general George Casey. As terrific of this tragedy was hit our diversity becomes a casualty. I think that's -- you know saying that lots of diversity in talent is a worst tragedy."

" you know -- American song you know in hours not you know he's talking about mr. Fisher what east argument is. That we need Arab language speakers many people familiar with the language world -- Muslim world. Who understand it culturally who understand linguistically. And that our security is at stake we don't have people in the military. What you wanna compromise our security by not allowing police people who have these skills into the military which the military says it needs."

" And people can learn Arabic I -- to -- air Americans can -- every there's a lot smarter than given credit for."

" I tell you if we keep Muslims out even though the army says we need their knowledge of the culture we need their knowledge of the language. If anybody can learn a language but that they have knowledge of the culture they -- we need these people."

" Well -- you can tap into the cultural knowledge and traditions of Moslems. What the making of a party of military giving -- grenades and am I -- you know better than the military."

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