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Published: Mon, 9 Nov 2009
Description: Some predict a health care bill won't be passed by year's end
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" nice to -- thank you rather well having been in the House of Representatives. After all -- Saturday night sorry you missed the fact that."
" Trying to -- variable times no I don't miss the house and I thought that was a rather unseemly proposition after Russian news don't even have 72 hours to put -- for the American people see it. Vote late into the night on Saturday night obviously some worms were twisted. And then while they wait around for something we probably won't act until some time next year. And -- was all right."
" Because it's such a close two in favor of it it democratic favorite I suspect it doesn't lose that."
" Thank you broke the code if they don't have -- then then it might be too late they won't have the vote later on the more the American people see of this health care quote reform. The less they like it so they had every different have the vote while they had the votes wait another month and they might not have votes but what does that tell you. About the representation. Of the views of the American people that's what we're supposed to be here to do. And on whether we'll have a least a little bit of time for the American people to see this product before the Senate passed. How much time is that. I mean and and how who calculates is that senator Reid who makes that determination yes senator Reid's majority leader and he will decide when to pick you doesn't have a bill yet as you know they're still writing that. My guess is that some time after Thanksgiving they will bring it to the Senate for. And will then have at least what was -- three weeks before Christmas so we'll have that much time at least talk about it and I can't imagine we would be done with that by then. Remember the house of -- in the House of Representatives the Republicans only got to offer. One amendment at least in the Senate we have it right of all members to offer amendments."
" Aren't so there's a quick rushed Saturday it was quite a good -- fascinating to watch they have their vote now have a couple weeks figures. -- you started doing -- headcount and what you anticipate to be the Senate bill because I realize it's not finished yet."
" Sure in the first vote is the vote to go to the bill and -- the Senate has to decide we will now take up the Senate bill on health care if there's a vote on it and leader Reid has to get sixty senators to agree to take about what the latest -- what would discourage a senator from voting for more discussion about it now. A senator has said Heidi. Don't like a certain thing about this bill for example several Democrats so they don't like the government run insurance the so called public option. Well why would you vote to go to a bill that has that element -- you're sure that you can get to sixty votes take it out on an amendment. Then -- other otherwise remember the famous John Kerry won the debate when I was four before I was against it. Everyone who votes to go to the bill even -- they hate something that senate. And know that they're -- to get that out is in effect. Saying one thing publicly but allowing it to actually go forward and parents."
" So the vote could get stopped at that point and then it goes back in to be rewritten is that likely we've elected this from the head counts against -- a sense of that would be stopped at that point."
" Well first you have the vote on the motion to proceed and that voters very close right now works with and Warner to either way. If they do get the -- to proceed to build and you're right through the process of amendment begins and we write the bill on the Senate floor. But I can't imagine very many amendments -- once Harry Reid and his democratic leadership has written -- bill my guess is that stability in currency commodity sent. At the end of the whole amendment process. Is another vote and that's the motion to close off debate and go to final passage. And that motion to close off debate is another sixty vote motion."
" Even though Democrats have majority they don't that mean they're just squeaking by and the sixty. I mean they've got thrown at me from immediately -- which was -- which part."
" Yes they have sixty votes if you count bear Bernie Sanders from Vermont and Joe Lieberman from Connecticut -- that they do caucus with the Democrats that's six. And so if all of them voted then there's nothing Republicans can do to stop we don't have the votes. The hope is that some of the Democrats or those independents would vote no on one of these and senator Lieberman has said right now. He would not vote. To proceed to final passage because of what's in the bill so right now they wouldn't get that sixty votes if all Republicans voted against."
" And some of the dynamics of -- senator Nelson reports a Democrat was -- huge. Seniors. Citizen population there. You've got senator Lieberman has got all the insurance companies and I'm not suggesting these candidates are minute got to consider constituency bigger cities and you're generous is -- but. Medical device manufacturers senator -- of Indiana's considered. -- this concerned about that well right there those are three votes that -- look very much in question sports and Harry Reid. How does he persuade them -- what can he do to suddenly get them on his team is gonna get -- at sixty."
" Well there are basically three ways to go about you can threaten people but that doesn't work very well settlers. You can say to them I will give you something what do you want. And of course if a senator really has wanted something for his -- her state badly enough. It's possible they could -- just do this for me and I'll give you. This vote and because this is so important the people back in my state when I go back opening and explain to him -- they'll say well it was a fair bargain. -- the third way is. You could try to make the bill conform to the wishes of their constituents."
" But that might raise the cost on a -- for instance if you if -- if this an -- a huge population like this the senior citizen population. That's gonna raise the cost."
" No bay Cuba it -- it might lower the cost -- Iraq if you know those of us who are concerned about the cost of this bill. Would like to see the cost reduced dramatically in -- maneuver Democrat difference would two. However I was being a little facetious when I said third way to do -- actually appease our constituents do what they want. I don't think the democratic leader can afford to do that with this bill he would lose to many of the members on the left of his party. And then he wouldn't get past week's winner read today -- catbird -- is very content. From both you know he's got sixty votes. And they just have a big victory in the house but it was. Very close. They lost what 17 of the Democrats in the house voted against it. They had to keep delaying that they had to delay it here he knows the problems that he has. And I understand there's just the letter sent by a group. House Democrats that sympathy. Abortion language stays in the bill when it is they're all gonna vote against. So to some extent his problem is that -- have satisfies this group this group will be dissatisfied. And vice Versa and that's the problem that any leader. Prediction when this -- yes. Well that might well -- did the vote to proceed to the bill vote will probably be. Sometime after Thanksgiving. With and we crucial that I don't know. And obviously it's gonna take we've we've had a lot of bills have taken five or six weeks on the Senate floor. You do have the Christmas recess in between there and I don't know how long that will be so some time --"
" Question. Well I've been watching Christmas. Is -- means you -- I can I -- myself -- quits I can make my plans."
" You know as important as this issue is and it is. It's important that we hear from our constituents to. And some of those constituents are actually family members of the can be nice to be home for Christmas and then I'm happy to work if indeed that working here and I know you sort of -- thank you bet thank you --"
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