Whole New Ballgame

" Plus news on health care count down and now that the hurdle in the house has been passed. The future of health care reform moves to the US senate. And if the Sunday talk shows -- in the in the indication of how this battle is going to be fought the house plan is facing some very tough opposition on the other side of the hill. The house bill is dead on arrival in the Senate just look at -- past -- past two tornado think that they had passed by two votes. One of the biggest stumbling blocks right now the idea of a public option. Which is designed to be a government run insurance plan to compete with the private insurers to try to keep costs down. The house plan calls for that option but bills from two different Senate Committees vary on what role. If any relief that the government plane will play the New York senator Chuck Schumer a Democrat admits it'll be tough but reform will pass. If you thought it was apartment house it's going to be harder in the sense. Having said that. I think we will pass a bill. All right a look now at how all of this may play out let's bring in Jordan Lieberman publisher of politics magazine live -- this on Capitol Hill this again Jordan. If there's ever what's the big deal in the Senate where where it -- the first big stumbling block."

" Well of course the public option there -- a number of democratic senators who say they will not support a health care bill with the public option. If perfectly fine that Lindsey Graham and or national kinds Republicans can say they oppose. A a health care plan with the public auction that doesn't really matter right now. What what what needs to happen is there needs to sixty democratic votes or the sixty votes overall to passes that's not out of out of the Senate."

" when you say they're couple who are not gonna support -- with a public option who are they and what their reasons and complexes and had to do with. With contributions from from medical community."

" Well they've they've certainly they've they've certainly taken their share from from the medical the health insurance. You know trial lawyer community. But there's Ben Nelson -- by the Mary -- their there's a few and that they've been somewhat vague as to who exactly will support and oppose this. But it's pretty clear that Democrats and Harry Reid will need to do something to change this bill if it will come back if it will pass the Senate with sixty votes."

" And is that thinking that they will make tweaks to try to please some of those people as as quite frankly they did in the house regarding of the abortion part of at all."

" That's part of it I think the public option is really a bigger question here in the trick is of course to two. Get what they want out of and then go back and changes in the conference committee where all things. All things can happen."

" Right conference committee for those who are not familiar you take a bill that comes out of the house the bill that comes out of the Senate you try to put it together when you put together. Although it's not really the ideas sometimes you come up with I don't know what amounts to a whole new thing."

" You do it's almost Frankenstein -- go back and and then vote all over again and the question is in that -- our senators and members of the house representatives to vote yes and no no on virtually the same bill they can before and against at the same time."

" And in that conference committee. The thinking is that -- that'll be the place where this thing gets the loudness as it has an argument."

" Right but if it's also it happens behind closed doors this Kabila hello I'm an outside option. Bill you'll hear you'll hear what kind of things covenant. Me a lot of pressure on the conference committee members to put to insert provisions take operations basically again behind closed doors. Jordan Lieberman for politics magazine thanks Jordan."