'Breaking Point'

" I would would here and we're talking about atrocities were talking about deaths were talking about killing with a disfigured red lives being exploited. This beyond anything anybody can comprehend that -- you put yourself on a scenario dealing with his day in day out hour after hour. And it is very easy to see how someone could reach a breaking point. One of the things that we're trying to psychiatrist understand is to a evaluate ourselves as we go through this d.'s and put it. And you have to understand that you have to be objective when you treat individuals you cannot take it personally you cannot let the emotions of the situation get to you. Or it will tear you --"

" While no doubt about it but that as I understand this gentleman did and doing everything he could to avoid being deployed to Afghanistan he did not want to go he himself. A psychiatrist -- army paper is medical school trading and that he was willing to pay back a 100000 dollars to the military if he could be let out. Not a good even as opposed the war."

" In Afghanistan from and it seems that in a situation like that. You know maybe army I mean obviously that's hindsight but it just seems. You know win sometimes when kids they sign up that eighteen years old or whatever and it just seems like. If you get so many warning signs that somebody is completely freaking out that there has to be a way to to let people out and then they don't actually."

" I guess he was giving indications are from with intimate interviews where he was talking openly about his displeasure."

" About what was taking place -- vampire bats scare me review at Walter Reed hospital that was was less than adequate and actually they said you we have to go into therapy for -- monitor. That your treatment of other individuals so yeah there were clear cut warning signs here and I."

" To set him and pick -- Yeah talk about the violence and get some songs into different. Army captain he's he's that they deserve this or something like that it is very very Havilland."

" It -- and that scenario you have a hierarchy which is going to be monitoring. The individuals that are treating some of the army for example. You would have status reports that would have community about your superiors. Probably on and allow. And if you're not doing good work or in this case I think if the stress has gotten you -- it's starting to get you emotionally you're letting it affect you mostly instead of doing your job objectively. Then that the clerk assigned to look we gotta get this guy out. These horrific cases that he's working -- get -- that is something away from that and see how he does there. And whether that was done while we don't know but certainly I think that the warning signs were there. And it's gonna while we're as the investigation goes forward as to whether there were."

" And then all the products as ray look you just have to actually very careful right we walk down that path because obviously his family has spoken out saying that. He it has always been a loyal good Americans I Hispanic American citizens and the fact that he's Muslim I mean I know a lot of our own party jumping to conclusions. That this maybe terrorism based you know and the fact that this is point two extremist right. Even within our own. Admits you know within our military -- some people even calling from amended to be the greater background checks on -- that want to be in the military and that's you know I think you're really. Walking dangerous and I don't really eyes he."

" We have here -- honestly I mean I think this is the guy that reached his breaking when I think that he had personally horrific stories about war. That he was I don't know he opposed to it having when he received his deployment orders. Then he started hours borrowers thought you -- I'm working with -- these stories and what happens over there I do not wanna go over there no matter what. I think that in these cases of burnout like this -- the doctor gets depressed. Yeah and give us a psychiatrist who -- right yeah that's that other. -- depression -- case like this the thoughts turned toward suicide not towards homicide but I think that in this case there would be the possibility. That he had someone that in his mind it's a sick mind at that point understand we -- blaming the United States government he was one in the military he thought okay gifts is the cause this is why I feel so bad. And in his mind it became. We're of my life is over I know but I'm gonna make a statement I'm gonna make a stand I'm gonna try to get the word out. That this is what's going on and of course it shows you -- twelve city would be to think that I'm gonna kill people in order to protest the war on people who are mentally --"

" And get that stuff on the website as well there's a website is not that any guy out -- warning I'm warning sign apparently and I neighbors say cleaned out camping out his apartment. You know -- yeah what may happen more affordable for suicide ask you that closely before SuSE but you can look at the strossen and happened to triggers in this case almost the same -- His family members shepherds that's an excellent interview with one of the cousins last night. Who said that he often would tell a share stories that you -- stories that he was hearing. From fellow veterans out there at about what was happening on the battlefield. It just it it."

" You cannot as a psychiatrist that's unethical you can not tell those stories and stories that you hear in a confidential. Assessment or confidential treatment. You do not share that with anyone -- of the patient record. And those should be held so I did not know that but I will tell you right now that that is absolutely unethical to be telling stories and yeah. -- It doesn't matter because of the fact that people can put two and two together and often can figure out who the individual as -- as -- cardinal rule of psychotic you do not talk about these stories to your wife. Do your friends your family to know one."

" So I mean as it as -- you know what I militias -- is pointing out that others point out throughout this coverage that. The people who -- money military bases they are so close today on and then there are like family. So for the folks who are experiencing this what can we expect over the next several days as they try to come together in their grief and process what's happened."

" Leo well obviously you look at this is a -- as he -- this is okay it's almost like one member of your family has turned on your family so that makes it that much harder to deal with the tragic. Thirty different levels here of course -- to be the ones who are directly involved. Who lost loved ones family friends to the actual shooter and then there's going to be everyone else is gonna be less. Personally involved. But still is gonna have to deal with the fact that one of our own. Has turned on us so there comes dealing with the trial as much as it does with the loss coming in the -- and the trauma and and that there."

" House compound -- that's one nice and it's -- the name that family yeah a lot of comfort a lot of."

" Which it gives visitors so well here that they can. Hard to widget which is good obviously available to bad and express your emotions and on the outside that's a good point."

" Except the fans that talked about chaplains that -- had -- the whole country so all those people -- actually. Yeah finished fifth go across the country obviously loves the family it -- New --"

" Well I would suspect that they're or going to be bringing in. Chaplains and they're going to be bringing in mental health professionals. Because there's going to be huge influx of people that need help. Okay I just."