'Breaking Point'

" I would would here and we're talking about atrocities were talking about death were talking about killing would I would disfigured red lives being exploited. This beyond anything anybody can comprehend -- you put yourself -- that scenario dealing with his day in day out hour after hour. And it is very easy to see how someone could reach a breaking point. One of the things that we're trying to psychiatrist to understand is to evaluate ourselves as we go through this these -- treatment. And you have to understand that you have to be objective when you treat individuals you cannot take it personally you cannot let the emotions of the situation get to you. Are you will tear you up."

" While no doubt about it but but as I understand this gentleman did and doing everything he could to avoid being deployed to Afghanistan you did not want to go he himself. A psychiatrist -- army -- for his medical school training and that he was willing to pay back a 100000 dollars to the military if he could be let out. -- that he was opposed the war."

" In Afghanistan from and it seems that at a situation like that. You know maybe I mean I mean obviously that's in hindsight but it just seems. You know win sometimes when kids they sign up at eighteen years old or whatever and it just seems like. If you get so many warning signs that somebody is completely freaking out that there has to be a way to to let people out and then they don't actually."

" I guess he was giving indications are -- we've -- some interviews where he was talking openly about his displeasure."

" About what was taking place of -- review at Walter Reed hospital that was was less than adequate and actually they said you we have to go into therapy for a year we're gonna monitor. That your treatment of other individuals so -- there were clear cut warning signs here and I."

" To set. They picked. Yeah talk about the violence and -- songs using different. Army captain he's he's that they deserve this or something like that it is very very --"

" It in and that scenario you have a hierarchy which is going to be monitoring the individuals that are treating some of the army for example. You would have status reports that would have community by your superiors. Probably on annual -- And if you're not doing good work or in this case I think if these stress has gotten -- you and -- it's starting to get you emotionally you're letting it affect you mostly instead of doing your job objectively. Then that is the -- that look we gotta get this guy out. These horrific cases that he's working -- into something away from that and see how he does there. And whether that was done we don't know but certainly I think that the warning signs were there. And it's -- while we're as the investigation goes forward as to whether there were."

" And then all the products as ray look investments and I think it'd be very careful language we walk down that path because obviously his family has spoken out saying that. He it has always been a loyal good Americans. His -- American citizens and the fact that he's Muslim I mean I know a lot of -- jumping to conclusions. That this -- terrorism based you know and the fact that this is pointing to extremist right. Even within our own. Admits you know within our military and some people even calling from -- the greater background checks on Muslims that want to be in the military and that's you know I think you're really. Walking -- dangerous and I don't really eyes he."

" You have here to be honest I mean I think this is the guy that reached his breaking when I think that he had -- horrific stories about war. That he was I don't know he opposed to it and -- when he received his deployment orders. Then he started hours borrowers thought you -- I'm working with this I know these stories -- what happens over there I do not -- go over there -- no matter what. I think that in these cases of burnout like this -- the doctor gets depressed. Yeah and give us a psychiatrist who -- yeah that's the other. -- depression -- case like this the thoughts turned toward suicide not towards homicide but I think that in this case there would be the possibility. That he had someone that in his mind it's a sick mind at that point understand we was blaming the United States government he was one in the military he thought okay gifts is the cause this is why I feel so bad. And it is mind it became. We're out of my life is over I know but I'm gonna make a statement I'm gonna make a stand I'm gonna try to get the word out. That this is what's going on and of course it shows you have twelve city would be to think that I'm gonna kill people in order to protest a war on people are -- handing --"

" And get that stuff on the website as -- web -- that any guy out a warning I'm warning sign apparently -- our neighbors say cleaned out camping out his apartment. You know -- what may happen more affordable for suicide ask you that closely before SuSE but you can look at the -- and and happened to triggers in this case almost the same line. His family members Shepard -- an exclusive interview with one of the cousins last night. Who said that he often would tell -- share stories that you -- stories that he was hearing. From fellow veterans out there at about what was happening on the battlefield. It -- it -- it was so hard for him to manage and he didn't share that with his family members right."

" You cannot as a psychiatrist that's unethical you can not tell those stories and stories that you hear in a confidential. Assessment or confidential treatment. You do not share that would anyone -- of the patient record. And those should be held so I did not know that but I will tell you right now that that is absolutely unethical to be telling stories and here. -- It doesn't matter because of the fact that that people can put two and two together and often can figure out who the individual as that is -- cardinal rule of psychotic you do not talk about these stories to your wife. Do your friends your family to know one."

" So I mean as it as the you know what I militias -- is -- others point out throughout this coverage that. The people who live on the military bases they are so close -- and then there are like family. So for the folks who are experiencing this what can we expect over the next several days as they try to come together in their grief and process what's happened."

" well obviously you look at this is a -- as he sentence this is okay it's almost like one member of your family has turned on your family so that makes it that much harder to deal with the tragic. Thirty different levels here of course -- to be the ones who are directly involved. Who lost loved ones family friends to the actual shooter and then there's gonna be everyone else is gonna be less. Personally involved. But still is gonna have to deal with the fact that one of our alone. Has turned on us so -- comes dealing with the trial as much as it does with the loss coming in the war and the -- and and that that."

" How -- how each -- that's one nice and it's a name that family yeah a lot of comfort a lot of."

" Which it gives you do so well here that they can. Hard to widget which is good obvious -- available to bad and express your emotions and on the outside that's a good point."

" Except that the -- that talked about chaplains -- all of -- so all those people -- actually. Yeah finished fifth go across the country obviously -- of the family it -- an important part."

" Well I would suspect that they're or going to be bringing in. Chaplains and they're gonna be bringing in mental health professionals. Because there's going to be -- huge influx of people that need help. Okay I just."