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Lies, Damn Lies ... and Statistics?

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Lies, Damn Lies ... and Statistics?

Published: Fri, 6 Nov 2009

Description: Has the stimulus really created or saved 640,000 jobs?

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" Switching gears Mark Twain is quoted as saying there and three kinds of lies lice. Damn lies and statistics that we share statistics and our government where did they get that man should you believe the one that. Right now according to recovery dot -- more than 640000. Jobs have been created or saved by the seven -- 87 billion dollar stimulus package. Do you trust those numbers stories serve in the Mark Twain school thought when it comes to statistics. Just like Steve Morse here tonight on the wall street journal editorial page I Steve do you trust them that."

" Well Greta I'll ask that question was second but I want to tell you some -- latest bulletin not that health care bill you were just talking about. I this is something you feel about over the last few months it now appears rather than that Bill Walton got the bill as -- will be voted out. Will not be posted on the Internet 72 hours before the vote which means that most the numbers will not have Brad Pitt and the American people all not a bad at least 72 hours to read the -- let's see what the -- we're done about one of the most important piece of legislation American history it's an outrage. -- on this issue have a."

" And I used to rat -- I -- and I -- could -- proud. -- you don't like."

" Greta I am surprised because it. Is it that the brazen this on this and and that era against. Pushed -- proposes they were not Philip the American people see the -- I'm just I am shocked by it yeah."

" And you know what you see everything that way since it every single American out there who's outraged -- this could get on the phone could get on the Internet and started. Pounding congressman congresswoman and senators are right now so in some ways I sort of throw my hands up of course if you put it up and let the American people see it. But if the American people are sick and there on the driver's seat they can demand that."

" I think that's one reason they do we have 50000 people. The -- today. About how this issue of the job spell it really is that this thing has been up that. If you look at all these reports that are coming out right now in there are numerous of them from around the states. I don't know I used the word lie but there's certainly did this option that is going on here. With this bill and what we found for example is that in some cases should there was a two thirds overstatement. The number of jobs are created as an example -- I didn't want anyone got a dog days with this money they called it a jobs -- there was an article in today's shot Milwaukee journal sentinel year old. Newspaper on newspaper it found that there were vast amounts of overstatement of jobs created Wisconsin and one case they put an extra zero they said that about 500 jobs just created when only fifty got a mandate. And they said it was just that it's inadvertent error. I'm not so sure was inadvertent."

" Well I'm -- that we look PI aliens so many quality control we get everything done these numbers yet. I'm not -- as nice -- your and say tonight maybe it's because -- it's on the heels of hearing these twelve people gunned down court but. But using nice words like deceptions to analyze how Miller -- tonight. Because in other people out there who want jobs who wanna work. And there's no reason why we should play this game that would the numbers and full of rally that safe and and -- even be deceitful about same jobs are quote save when there's no way to figure out how jobs -- say -- pop."

" So much -- instead to the point of absurdity. And the reason that I think that you're probably right that there is AS systematic deceit here is that there's a a systematic overcoming. And here's the problem brought -- the people are being. Asked to help the number of jobs that were created by the very people got some money so of course they haven't exactly the same -- of course we create all these jobs give us more money won't create more jobs so there hasn't been a good a lot of of this system you know the new unemployment rates are coming up tomorrow. A lot of people expect more jobs lost there's just no evidence that the stimulus bill is creating jobs for Americans it's been. In my opinion but 200 billion dollar waste of money. Steve thank him."

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