'This Is an Embarrassment'

" Rhode -- Largest hospital is facing a 150000. Dollars in fines and cameras are going to be installed in all of the operating rooms there. Let's say what happened doctors performed three surgeries there. On the wrong side of the patient's body for the fifth time since 2007. The latest last month -- a doctor operated twice on the same finger. He's listed day to different fingers. And in a statement the CEO of Rhode Island hospitals -- this. We remain more committed than -- to working on methods to reduce the incidence and all medical errors. From reaching patients patient safety has always been and remains our number one priorities that that doesn't things to -- happened at that -- island hospital doctor. -- Mac gray as the director of Johns Hopkins center for surgical outcomes research I was surprised doctor to find that you say. You know gee it's not that surprising that this happen."

" you know if you're the sort of guy that -- your -- a lot don't going to surgery you know we're all human but there are standard checklist that you're supposed to go through. And we have a checklist for every operation that confirms the operation and the person. But yet only a few percent of doctors will go -- a standard. Surgical checklist and now hospitals are getting a wake up call because quite frankly -- This is outrageous and it's an embarrassment to the surgical community as you know -- a -- I operate every day this is an embarrassment."

" I mean let's let's talk about the fact that there -- brain surgery is. Where they did the wrong inside doctor I mean you know I think must be no bigger event physical than a person's life. Then going in for brain surgery the thought that somebody. I could be so careless as operate on the wrong side is just unbelievable. Well I gotta be honest with you Martha. You know I had an operating room schedule where -- left turning -- right -- left -- right Colin. And you can get confused. That's why we need to use standardized. Checks and balances in our day the same way the aviation industry does it. And the same way that Ford Motor Co. or Toyota does it. You know we have the greatest health care system in the world Martha. But things like this continue to happen at a rate where doctors are killing more people. Every year and -- be combined -- evident in I I still I guess some idealistic and tell -- about doctors because I think they go into it because they care. About you know people on and they want to help them right they want to solve that brain tumor they they live for that opportunity. To make that person better so how does it happen. I know accidents happen but this isn't a car and -- not an airplane. It's a human being and I'm wondering if you know isn't that there have been doing too many -- that the sort of thing that we see from pilot to replying to me flights. Or. A little bit cocky about their ability to do things if someone else says doctor you -- did the the checklist and and they get the brush off."

" While that's exactly what the state regularly you know we -- doctors don't get along with state regulators the state regulators are actually right here. They need to be monitored because the culture of surgery let's face it. It is an art and it's a great aren't I love surgery."

" It is a field where you've got to be confident mind when you're not sure you've got to be confident. And here you've got doctors as there are all over the country which are not marking the side of the body with a permanent marker that we use it sterile. On the side. They're not doing that they're showing up for the operation after it starts. Now I'm not going to I think that's probably hit the send it right why is it that at your pre -- why -- why don't you and -- just write it on yourself right because you know which side it's not."

" That's a good thing Martha do that we have surgery just don't put it next to confuse us as the wrong side -- this side."

" I'm -- that's a that's a -- of contact doctor thank you very much so I -- to be on -- about solutions earlier that's who have the one we get well that's yeah I doctor let's aim right at very rare if not I am. I know -- ever -- yeah exactly what."