Uncut: Hillary Clinton in Pakistan

" Well I've had a great trip this is the third day of a three day trip and I've really gotten out to talk to people and listen to them and try to explain you know some of what we're trying to do so that. We dispel some of misconceptions. We -- fun -- I mean I want -- he said I find it hard to believe that nobody you're government knows where al-Qaeda is. And couldn't get them if they really wanted to see you talking about that that -- on the government doing. -- can't you weren't to sugarcoat anything. Well Greta what we're trying to do here is to. Can rebuild. A better relationship you know we've been and friends and allies of Pakistan going back to their beginning but. There is a deep level. Mistrust and suspicion about. America's intentions and actions that has built up over the last eight years when we came in -- office we look at the you know the public research and we saw that. Even though we have a common enemy and a common threat that we have to pursue together. There wasn't the base of understanding that there needed to be so I wanted to -- I needed to -- You'll find time to that I wouldn't just talk to government officials as important as that is but get out into. In a different settings universities and business groups and and really listen to people. And they said to me very clearly -- we have a trust deficit for you as well look that's a two way street and I'm happy to take any of your questions I'm happy to admit where we may not have always done. As well as we could -- our relationship. Lot of people back home wanna know now what how come al-Qaeda has a safe haven in Pakistan -- and we arrest somebody like. -- not -- and find out that he was trained in -- training camp run by al-Qaeda in Pakistan. I think that's the kind of relationship we need to happening we're very. Impressed by the campaign that the military tears running against the Pakistan -- on in swat and South Waziristan. But I point to our friends of Pakistan is that. That is an important and necessary. Step for you to take. But remember that there is a terrorist syndicate with al-Qaeda at the head. They inspired they direct they fund these groups. And so you can't just say your job is done because you've cleared -- swat you've cleared out South Waziristan. Until we truly root out what is in my view. The source of the syndicate and a lot of the problems that Pakistan Afghanistan and the rest of the space I really -- you've got to have."

" cinema deferral here's country than I do but what struck me is that there was there is some blame among with very few people I spoke to. That there were responsible for instance for the violence at the just recently had because we're not handling our fears Afghanistan it's pushed down -- the Pakistan. And that somehow you know in part our responsibility. Is it in part our responsibility yours is just them blaming us."

" Well that's where we need to have the kind I like I'm talking about. Clearly al-Qaeda left Afghanistan. And we let them out you know we we should have taken them out when we had the chance back in -- one you know to and they escaped -- escape into Pakistan. So to that extent you know if we had done a better job going into Afghanistan. And capture the people who attacked us or kill them. You know we would be -- may be a different position. But there are homegrown. Terrorists here in Pakistan. They make common cause with al-Qaeda. So we can look backwards through the rear view mirror and say we should -- what do you shouldn't that it would -- to. -- we -- say look we have a common enemy and we're proud that you're gone after the Pakistan Taliban who are causing so much damage and destruction that. Terrible bombing in the -- the other day but that's enough. You have to help us get al-Qaeda. You'll be more secure. If you help us get the people who are helping to fund and train and equip the very people you're going after in the South Waziristan right now. Which seems to another one of the controversies here is the aid from the United States to be we have -- enormous goal. To help them for selfish thing -- the humanitarian reasons and that's also important to keeping -- stable economy. And a stable government but of course we have self interest because of the homegrown terrorism that gets sent over -- the United States. Out but they don't like it will we give them aid and we tell them we have strings attached to it this -- we need to have you do with it that's a problem. What we had a lot of discussion about that because this really became a very big issue here in Pakistan. And I don't think most of us in America really understood what's the beef you know we're trying to. Demonstrating a long term commitment to the development of Pakistan to -- Energy sector to education infrastructure -- the kinds of things that. Will provide a greater level of stability for the people of Pakistan because their incomes will be rising in their futures will look better. But in the -- three days up and here. We could've phrased some things differently we could've been a little more sensitive to Howell. We are perceived. I've been very clear exit look you guys don't want the eight you know not take it I mean we think it's -- your interest -- our interest that we have this relationship. But they've come back it's no wait a minute we we just -- we didn't understand some of what you were talking about there are so. Well there's enough room for misunderstanding. We need it clear the air and we need to do it on an ongoing basis not when something erupts and then we have to run in and say wait a minute here's what we meant and here's how you should read it. And I I'm pledged -- I've pledged to do that we've got to be smarter about how we communicate is one of the reasons that you and I've talked about this before. That I see my role not just. To go to a country meet with the officials and and that's very important and I I I enjoy and and no I have to do that. But to get out and talk with people because in today's world. Public opinion matters and countries you know no matter what the government is and now we have a newly elected democratic government which is great in Pakistan. We have to be aware of the fact that information just flies around the globe with flick of a mouse and we have to. Be communicating more clearly because there's so much room for misunderstanding. I I was watching the news getting ready to come out for these interviews today. And the misinformation about the H1N1 vaccine. Many people believe what they read on blogs that are not scientific at all. Well you can imagine what it's like half a world away when people are trying to understand what we're doing so let's just a better job of communicating I guess -- it's -- though."

" that with the aid in the for instance the -- that there's been some suspicion on the part of India that aid from the United States to Pakistan. Was being used to -- these terrorist groups with them would in inflict terror in India -- suspicious of the sort of the cycle where the -- goes. Do that Pakistan's not understand why -- we Americans would really wanna know where the money is spent and how it's been and why we put the strings on."

" I think that they do understand that but I think that what their. Concern was is that some of the way we. Worded. What is the accountability that we have to be accountable to the American taxpayer not said that over and over again in my meetings. They didn't you know that that it it was taken the wrong way he like what because now I've -- up the misunderstanding. Of their misunderstanding."

" This I'm coming he had it you know we're giving you money and you're complaining about -- the streets wept and I guess that's. Well."

" I'd give me an example you know one of the one of the features in. The bill was to say United States has to you know verify that there's -- civilian control over the military. Well I could see why the government and the people would say we just got rid of up military government. Because we wanted to democracy and the democracy is now in place. And we are in charge and why would you question I mean you -- what I mean so we just have to be aware. The the point is that what that bill was intended to do was to demonstrate a long term commitment to Pakistan which I think is absolutely right. What it did not do was imposed micromanaging. An all the rest of it but what is absolutely clear is that when we -- anywhere. We have accountability measures and I've explained that this is not unique to Pakistan this is something that. You know we expected so I think we could've been just cleaner and simpler and say no we need to make sure that whatever -- weekend. Goes for the intend objective -- there will be measurements of accountability to ensure that that happens now I think that's exactly the kind of you know straightforward. Expectation that they should have about what it is."

" We're doing. -- EU when you come here and you read their papers and -- and even shook it and you understand the enormity of the problem how profoundly important misses United's is. And even -- your job Aztec estates is really -- cats. Because you've even got India saying okay here's these people of homegrown terrorists and you report them given to give them money. We don't give safe haven to terrorists yet we don't get the money. India and Pakistan don't like each other you've got to sort of run between these two countries it is the you know his mind boggling how America tries to resolve this -- and that these -- tossed back -- they do matter test back home and we want to have."

" And I -- strong relationship with both India and Pakistan we see no contradiction there and we also want to encourage them. To try to find ways to resolve their differences which of course go back in history. So even where where the suspicion that exists one toward the other. And pilot role that we're playing is is where we can to try to allay those suspicions. But also to tell each how they're perceived. You know sometimes. -- one or the other does something which they think is perfectly sensible which is totally misunderstood. Well you got to nuclear armed countries. That are they stopped and what -- conventional forces. And you know you there's no room for misunderstanding so. -- what we see as we develop our. Individual relationships with both is that we can play a productive role. In trying to make sure that you know nothing in goes off the rails and their relationship -- myself into the -- kind -- our -- because. You know we -- take the money in these -- the strings attached to it well they didn't take the money. They're government would likely fall it would fail and that's exactly what he Ron watts next door so let's say -- it no matter what we'd do. You know we're really we're -- very tough spot. Now where where are working on multiple levels simultaneously all the time. -- the United States has a global reach we have global interests we have global. Values that we believe in so we can't withdraw from the world and we have to do work hard to. You create better understanding. So that we can lay the groundwork for achieving the objectives that we have that are -- country's interest. It is so important that your viewers in the American public realized that. In the world we're living in today. We have to be attentive and vigilant everywhere. We have a role to play in trying to prevent problems and trying to. Provide good our good offices of the people who -- have some kind of rivalry don't. Blow it up. It's an incredibly complex world -- you know a few days -- Berlin as you will be to see the twentieth. Anniversary commemoration the fall of Berlin Wall. Mean it was a very dangerous time during the Cold War minutes the time I grew up and I remember it well but there was -- static. Quality to me -- we kind of knew we were doing we were trying to gain influence -- the Soviet former Soviet Union. We were trying to make sure that our values. -- in the eyes of people around the world. Well so all fell. And the last twenty years we've seen. All these non state actors like terrorists groups you know common to the four that we have to deal with so in addition to having to deal with. Governments and countries we now of these transnational. Threats of of terrorism of H1N1 of climate change of all kinds of issues drug trafficking human human trafficking. It's a much more complex world but it it image -- strikes me is it is that how we try to manage."

" All of this really is no simple answers and and special question of the nuclear weapons issue which -- question. Are you confident. That the nuclear -- nuclear weapons here in this country are secure because. If I know at least I've read that if we don't help them off financially of their government's gonna. Crumble so I assume that we need to financially help them so that government doesn't -- so that weapons containment -- do have confidence in the security of their nuclear arsenal and and I'm not sure that this democratic government. You know is is. Under that kind of threat. But we want to strengthen democratic institutions of Pakistan we want to you know create the conditions where the people Pakistan have a stake in that. Future that they're trying to build together we want to. It'll eliminate any kind. You know safe. You know haven or any kind of support for these terrorists groups. Because it's our interest but it's also in in the Pakistani interest so. That's you know what we're what we're challenged by and that's what you know I get up everyday -- trying to work -- when you drag on the street here on these checkpoints yeah I mean this means is this is not like you know most Americans don't understand -- like to live in this country out. It's it's in -- in the midst of a war and I think people back home need to understand that. This is a war that we have a big stake in the outcome and I'm impressed by and and encouraged by. The progress that Pakistan is making and that courageous sacrifice -- the Pakistan military. But we have a long way to go this is not you know going to be over -- times and even strategy in military strategy in Afghanistan. Bleeds over into this country need to cancer so I guess look at the back when the president makes that decision. It's gonna bleed into this country whatever the decision is. Absolutely mean when we first. Did our review upon taking office we concluded that it had to look at Afghanistan Pakistan together in in light of the war on terror. That we had to wage. And we are well aware that. Now the stronger. The partnership we have with Pakistan. The stronger their efforts to root out terrorists in their own country. The better the situation is across the border in Afghanistan. So what you like this job I mean this. Is why do you like this -- mean it it is so complicated. It is. It's really complicated is very -- because. First -- I believe that the United States has. An essential role to play in the world and there's not probably can walk away from now we have to prioritize -- we can't be all things to all people but. We have to be out there trying and working to solve problems and convincing people to come to our side and understand. How we see the world. And I believe it's -- critically important probably more complicated today -- in the past but even more important today. Thanks for management sector thank you great to see you next see you."