Uncut: Hillary Clinton in Pakistan

" But had a great trip this is the third day of a three day trip and I've really gotten out to talk to people and listen to them and try to explain you know some of what we're trying to do so that. We dispel some of -- misconceptions. We -- fun -- I mean I want -- he said I find it hard to believe that nobody you're government knows where al-Qaeda is. And couldn't get them if they really wanted to see you talking about that that your high on the government doing. -- can you weren't to sugarcoat anything. Well Greta what we're trying to do here is to. Can rebuild. A better relationship you know we've -- and friends and allies of Pakistan going back to their beginning but. There is a deep level. Mistrust and suspicion about. America's intentions and actions that has built up over the last eight years when we came into office we look at the you know the public research and we saw that. Even though we have a common enemy and a common threat that we have to pursue together. There wasn't the base of understanding that there needed to be so I wanted to comment I needed to it. You'll find time to that I wouldn't just talk to government officials as important as that is but get out in two. You know different settings universities and business groups and and really listen to people. And they said to me very clearly -- we have a trust deficit for you as well look that's a two way street and I'm happy to take any of your questions I'm happy to admit where we may not have always done. As well as we could have -- our relationship. Lot of people back home wanna know now what how come al-Qaeda has a safe haven in Pakistan app and we arrest somebody like. Does not -- and find out that he was trained in a training camp run by al-Qaeda in Pakistan. I think this kind of relationship we need happening we're very. Impressed by the campaign. But the military here is running against the Pakistan Taliban in swat and South Waziristan. But our point to our friends of Pakistan is that. That is an important and necessary. Step for you'd take. But remember that there is -- terrorist syndicate with al-Qaeda at the head. They inspired they direct they fund these groups. And so you can't just say your job is done because you've cleared up swat you've cleared out South Waziristan. Until we truly root out what is in my view. The source of the syndicate and a lot of the problems that Pakistan Afghanistan and the rest of -- face I realized that you've got to have."

" in cinema deferral here's country than I do but what struck me is that there was there is some blame among the very few people I spoke to. That there were responsible for instance for the violence at the just recently had because we're not handling our fears Afghanistan it's pushed down of the Pakistan. And that somehow I know in part our responsibility. Is it in part our responsibility yours is just them blaming us."

" Well that's where we need to have the kind I like I'm talking about. Clearly al-Qaeda left Afghanistan. And we let them out you know we we should have taken them out when we had the chance back in -- one -- to and they escaped -- escape into Pakistan. So to that extent you know if we had done a better job going and Afghanistan. And captured the people who attacked us or kill them. Now we would be -- may be a different position. But there are homegrown terrorists here in Pakistan. They make common cause with al-Qaeda. So we can look backwards through the rear view mirror and say we should it could what do you should it that it would -- to. Oh -- say look we have a common enemy and we're proud that you're gone after the Pakistan Taliban who are causing so much damage and destruction that. Terrible bombing in the -- the other day but that's enough. You have to help us get al-Qaeda. You'll be more secure. If you help us get the people who are helping to fund and train and equip the very people you're going after in the South Waziristan right now. Which seems to another while the controversies here is the aid from the United States to be we have enormous -- To help them for selfish thing that the humanitarian reasons and that's also important to keep you save a stable economy. And a stable government but of course we have self interest because of the home grown terrorism that gets sent over -- the United States. Out but they don't like it will we give them aid and we tell them we have strings attached to it this well we need to have you do with it that's a problem. What we have a lot of discussion about that because this really became a very big issue here in Pakistan. And I don't think most of us in America really understood what's the beef you know we're trying to. Demonstrating long term commitment to the development of Pakistan to here. Energy sector to education infrastructure -- the kinds of things that. Will provide a greater level of stability for the people of Pakistan because their incomes will be rising in their futures will look better. But in the -- three days I've been here. We could've phrased some things differently we could've been a little more sensitive to Howell. We are perceived. I've been very clear exit look you guys don't want the eight you know not take it I mean we think it's -- your interest and our interest that we have this relationship. But they've come back it's no wait a minute we we just -- we didn't understand some of what you were talking about there are so. You know there's enough room for misunderstanding. We need it clear the air and we need to do it on an ongoing basis not when something erupts in and we have to run an insane wait a minute here's what we meant and here's how you should read it. And I I'm pledged in I've pledged to do that we've got to be smarter about how we communicate is one of the reasons that you and I talked about this before. That I see my role not just. To go to a country meet with the officials and and that's very important and I I I enjoy and and no I have to do that. But to get out and talk with people because in today's world. Public opinion matters and countries in -- matter what the government is and now we have a newly elected democratic government which is great in Pakistan. We have to be aware of the fact that information just flies around the globe with the flick of a mouse and we have to. Be communicating more clearly because there's so much room for misunderstanding. I I was watching the news getting ready to come out for these interviews today. And the misinformation about the H1N1 vaccine. Many people believe what they read on blogs that are not scientific at all. Well you can imagine what it's like half a world away when people are trying to understand what we're doing so let's just do a better job of communicating I guess it's is though."

" With the with the aid in the for instance and that there's been some suspicion on the part of India that aid from the United States to Pakistan. Was being used to form read these terrorist groups with them would in inflict terror in India mean -- suspicious of the sort of the cycle where the aid goes. Do that Pakistan's not understand why do we Americans would really wanna know where the money is spent and how it's -- and why we put the strings on it."

" I think that they do understand that but I think that what bear. Concern was is that some of the way we. Worded. What is the accountability that we have to be accountable to the American taxpayer -- said that over and over again in my meetings. They didn't you know that that it it was taken the wrong way he liked what because now I've -- up the misunderstanding. Of their misunderstanding."

" This I'm coming he had it you know we're giving you money and you're complaining about it on the streets wept -- I don't -- it. Well."

" I'd give me an example -- know one of the one of the features in. The bill was to say United States has to you know verified that there's that they're civilian control over the military. What I could see why the government and the people would say we just got rid of up military government. Because we wanted to democracy and the democracy is now in place. And we are in charge and why would you question I've seen I mean so we just have to be aware. The the point is that what that bill was intended to do was to demonstrate a long term commitment to Pakistan which I think is absolutely right. What it did not do was imposed micro managing an all the rest of it but what is absolutely clear is that when we give -- anywhere. We have accountability measures I've explained that this is not unique to Pakistan this is something that. You know we expected so I think we could've been just cleaner and simpler and say no we need to make sure that whatever -- weekend. Goes for the intend objective and there will be measurements of accountability to ensure that that happens now I think that's exactly the kind of you know straightforward. Expectation that they should have about what it is."

" We're doing. You know you when you come here and you read their papers and talk and even shook it and you understand the enormity of the problem how profoundly important misses United's is. And even your job Aztec estates is we like herding cats. Because it even got India say okay here's these people of homegrown terrorists and you report them given to give them money. We don't give safe haven to terrorists yet we don't get the money. India and Pakistan don't like each other you've got to sort of run between these two countries it is the you know his mind boggling how America tries to resolve this is and that these profits matter to us back now they do matter test back home and we want to have."

" And I very strong relationship with both India and Pakistan and we see no contradiction there and we also want to encourage them. To try to find ways to resolve their differences which of course go back in history. So even where where of the suspicion that exists one toward the other. And pilot role that we're playing is is where we can to try to allay those suspicions. But also to tell each how they're perceived. You know sometimes you know one or the other does something which they think is perfectly sensible which is totally misunderstood. Well you got to a nuclear armed countries. That are -- with their conventional forces. And you know you there's no room for misunderstanding so. Part of what we see as we develop our. Individual relationships with both is that we can play a productive role. In trying to make sure that you know nothing in goes off the rails and their relationship -- myself into the seventh Kandahar had -- because. You know we say you know take the money in these -- the strings attached to it well they didn't take the money. They're government would likely fall it would fail and that's exactly what he Ron watts next door so let's say you know it no matter what we'd do. You were really we have very tough spot. Now where where are working on multiple levels simultaneously all the time. You know the United States has a global reach we have global interest we have global. Values that we believe in so we can't withdraw from the world and we have to do work hard to. You create better understanding. So that we can lay the groundwork for achieving the objectives that we have that are in our country's interest. It is so important that your viewers and the American public realized that. In the world we're living in today. We have to be attentive and vigilant everywhere. We have a role to play in trying to prevent problems and trying to. Provide good our good offices of the people who have some kind of rivalry don't. Blowing up. It's an incredibly complex world -- you know a few days -- Berlin as you will be to see the twentieth. Anniversary commemoration of fall Berlin Wall. Mean it was a very dangerous time during the Cold War minutes the time I grew up and I remember it well. But there was a certain static. Quality to me we we kind of knew we were doing we were trying to gain influence vis -- the Soviet former Soviet Union. They were trying to make sure that our values. Triumphs in the eyes of."