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Published: Mon, 2 Nov 2009
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" welcome to freedom watch your daily dose of raw liberty streaming online of foxnews.com. I'm your host judge entered a -- shadow here. Defending freedom defending your natural rights and defending your right to have a government that stays within the confines of the constitution. Yesterday Afghan officials declared the incumbent President Hamid Karzai the official winner of that country's presidential election two months ago. After canceling a runoff election won the last remaining challenger Abdullah Abdullah withdrew. They did this even though Afghan law requires a valid runoff when no one receives a lawful majority. Reports and corruption and voting irregularities. Have plagued the election -- with the abrupt announcement by Abdullah. Many are asking -- the Obama administration forced the last remaining challenger out of a possible run off. All of this came on top of the revelation that president Karzai's rather. Was generally known to have orchestrated much of the voting fraud and -- have sold drugs in massive amounts on the international market. Has been on the CIA payroll for years. Should American tax dollars be used to subvert democracy. And finance international drug dealing I thought we were in Afghanistan to do the opposite of all that. Joining me -- is -- president of the future for Freedom Foundation. Jake welcome back to freedom watch. Thank you -- it's nice to be back all right -- how bad as the situation in Afghanistan now as I understand that we now have a president was never lawfully elected. Whose brother is one of the biggest drug dealers in the country may be in that part of the world. Whose drug deals have been financed in large measure since money is -- is potable is exchangeable. -- federal tax dollars. And was a -- the CI."
" I don't -- can be much worse you raise the question about American taxpayers. That relevant question is. Is this what American troops are expected to be killing and dying for. Mean this is admittedly a crooked corrupt regime. He's been declared president as a result of an election that most everyone acknowledges was one with fake and fraudulent ballots. We democratic election isn't the only right solution to satisfy the election and have an honest one."
" 11 would -- 11 would also think and and remember we've been in Afghanistan for eight years. That the reason we answered Afghanistan was in part to repel. Those who caused 9/11 but in part to spread democracy. Stop the drug trade. Aren't we just about doing the opposite of what the stated purpose are going in there was."
" Absolutely. I mean if you pointed out here is a man's brother who according to -- US officials. Is involved in the drug trade. He's also on the CIA payroll so here the CIA is funneling money. To a guy that it knows is involved in the drug trade who happens to be the president's brother. And who also is or helping to orchestrate. This election that turned out to be fake and fraudulent. How much worse can things get them."
" What does the government say that we're fighting for I mean we haven't declared war on Afghanistan Afghanistan is allegedly an ally of ours. We have 68000. Troops there now John -- crystal has asked for another 40000. The president -- authorized another 17000. Before the forty was even asked for. If the government -- to state."
" The goal and Afghanistan what would even claimed to be. While the real goal is this old imperial mindset that they've got to have their puppet and office and that's that's the whole quest of the empire so it doesn't matter whether Karzai's legitimate -- illegitimate fraud fake. Crooked or whatever as long as he will do our bidding. That's all that matters now their main justification is that if they don't have their man in power in the Taliban were to take over. They -- provide sanctuary. For al-Qaeda. While there's certainly no proof of that. But this site her argument is fake also because if people want to engage in a terrorist attack on the United States. They don't need a quote sanctuary in which to do that. Although he needs a hotel room somebody's house they make their plans there regardless of whether it's Pakistan or Somalia or Yemen. Where -- Afghanistan doesn't matter. What we really have to get to the root out. Isn't the US government's presence in Afghanistan in Iraq. In the Middle East that is giving people the incentive to do these bad things against the United States like that's the question that and that hardly anyone of these. Can neo cons --"
" I have already talked about the horrific reaction on the part of locals. When innocents are killed either by a drone that comes out of the sky. Or by American troops or responding to some legitimate threat to them but using more force than is necessary can you make the argument. That the manner in which we are there -- whatever our goals -- actually making the situation worse. For American relations with that part of the world then better."
" Absolutely. I mean Americans are not the only people in the world to get angry when their loved ones in their country -- countryman or kill. The rest of the world feels the same way. So when they when they dropped these bombs on a suspected terrorists knowing that there's people in the house that are absolutely innocent of any charges the wife. The children. Neighbors relatives how can anybody be surprised that all that automatically series is -- recruiting device for people who want to do bad things to the United States. It's the US government's presence in that part of the world and the -- things that it's doing to people that part of the world that is the root of the problem. If you withdraw those troops out of Iraq out of Afghanistan -- the Middle East. That diminishes the the anger in the rage. That arises from what you were describing is the drone attacks are the attacks the bombings the wedding parties and so forth -- that they're killing before I let you go or you."
" Surprised. That -- President Obama wants to fight a war like this. Or do all presidents like to fight wars no matter what they say when they run for office."
" Well you know war the health of the state and and unfortunately Obama is one of those that loves big government. And and he's not done he knows what every president knows that that a war creates the opportunity for for big government. And and big govern."
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