Day in the Life: Islamabad, Pt. 2

" What -- What about dep secretary of state Hillary Clinton being here is that how has that -- she's obvious finished with a three day tour here. Has that helped or hurt president different terms of the village between United States. Or in the viewpoint of the pakistanis visa -- American."

" Early reading and again since she's still here it's for the at a difficult to get an awful picture. But early reading I think it's helped quite frankly is that the dialogue she's had with students with journalists should take him and yet she's definitely."

" Money she's not giving the kind of boilerplate answer that I think a lot of the media. Have been getting from from. US government you know it just. You know they were. Probably concerned about in this interpretation of further missed interpretation of what the goals of the United States armed Pakistan so. Secretary of state coming here she has the authority to say. It painted in whatever way she wants to painted and I think that day. At least in in a couple of the them interactions with students and journalists that they really the believe that she's speaking from the heart and they kept they kept saying it. I think inappropriately they they phrased it as charm but I think what they're trying to say a little bit as his sincerity that she's actually here. Addressing these issues of the offensive turning to them exiting shoes -- sun shoes shined -- signing of fixing. But they he has built -- lots of out of these. -- Slippers. Shoes. For kids and Jessica prayers that's yet that's called I think -- that is. Yet -- it's just about 230. But see this as -- traditional Pakistani. Footwear. Obviously -- for childbirth and in the where these without socks in the dead of winter when it's pouring rain and it's freezing. Very cold very the color. Five times today. But Wednesday today's -- It's June months the big fairness. These. The biggest day. Muslim faith no I think states I don't know if there's normally a prayer outside the gym but it's only five times today. Starting before sunset it."

" It concedes that there's a mosque ran the other side -- rebuilding. Yet and there. In the I mean every. Neighborhood of the mosque -- there's you know in our neighborhood there. That's immediately before block radius there's a mosque and hot and every and five times -- people assemble at the mines and it's full house full house definitely definitely the voluntary -- yeah yeah definitely I think it's it's also it's it's the commuting meaning places like churches are in the United States and its. The the guys work with us they have. One she and one -- they go to different lost but they'll come back in the -- you know do you know that down the street you know someone has just moved out -- moving in here. So they go there and you know they they -- but then also they mean everyone in the neighborhoods they gossip and they did news. The -- mostly Sunnis. Yes and and of course Iran is mostly -- and they're not particularly friendly friendly the pakistanis and Iraqis. Not after what's happened over the last couple weeks there's a suicide bombings in Iran that. A run blamed a militant group along the Pakistani Iranian border for carrying out. It seems to be it seems as though they've they've smoothed out the waters to governments yet. There aren't there are some Xia. Pockets here. -- to even some in the tribal areas and unfortunately. Because of that there's been a lot of sectarian violence thanks to some of the works for us she and he tells me. What it's like friends split about eight Q -- and where is C his got southern nuclear bomb in this country in -- that way. But he's he was under house arrest for several years but that was just lifted its day maybe two months ago. And he's not under house arrest that can talk to the media and I don't think he's the child and place it's and see here. -- a lot of pakistanis think he's here because when you look at. Pakistan's position in the region who they view to be the primary enemy India. To -- most pakistanis he's a hero because he gave them the nuclear bomb. Deterring India from squashing its small neighbor and now that's kind of like really. Boiling it down but that's why they view him as a hero because he gave Pakistan the bomb that a lot of people think they needed to you. Prevents. The bigger regional rival from squash him."

" So this of the past days Alice they don't like the Indians. And their -- the nuclear -- to do that it -- two lead to turn the Indians. But it seat pakistanis who most recently have done terrorism across the board last November. In Mumbai at the -- house that he needs it in the Indians are committing or causing balance out. They did it's when you -- is that reason not readable when you look at Kashmir really to pay."

" Ends on on how you break down that's that. Battle that's been going on for while it's been quiet for awhile but. That was the the center of gravity when he came to Indian and Pakistan any kind of proxy wars through terrorist activity and kind of ambushes on each -- troops. But flat like we saw last November in Mumbai on this side of the border know you haven't seen anything like that but it's it's. Absolutely amazing. -- our producer here -- united anytime there's any attack. In Pakistan and India are now even in Afghanistan. If it's on Indian embassy we just wait like I -- fifteen minutes before the Indian government says it was Pakistan behind it. Even when it comes to terrorist attacks inside Pakistan there are some rogue political elements who always went to India say that that. Rob. Indian security agency intelligence agency they were behind it so anytime anything happens it's like this that decade talks on I was gonna blame India in his -- in --"

" if it give back -- United States. You'd like to think well this is India and Pakistan from an Afghanistan's. But the problem is is that these terrorists. You know I have inflicted damage in our country and so this really is our problem. Whether we like it or not. Do you see any sort of break in this -- getting any better. At -- any any positive sign. Well at least between tax and India will start there it is getting better. -- even though they haven't prosecuted the terrorist he -- into the satisfaction the -- Indians have the terrorists who hit via Mumbai Motown."

" Yeah -- they did they just. And it's always been kind of again going to this -- appointing Indians are saying that the pakistanis were doing enough to trying to get these guys but. Just this past week there was a little bit of progress when it came. Because that is sensitive their peace negotiations going on when Mumbai happened and then of course all the peace negotiations. Went into the ten when that happens it sounds as though. Without talking specifically about -- by they're gonna get back to the negotiating table which is you know that's a long process that's not gonna happen overnight but. At least they're trying did. Start that that peace process again. As far as the region I mean we have. It sets a convoluted. Situation here that it's not going to be remedied overnight enforcing and when you look at the history of this region when you look at the history of Afghanistan. And the you know the militant activity there and and just what's gone on for centuries. There's not -- enforcing I wish I could say visit it quick and easy answer to the solving the problem here I think -- the best way to do it is is you know -- one bite at a time."

" The winners the prize and the decision it and I sit think this progress we might do know. OK we get the Indians have taxis talking now -- we've done that before me have all -- he's been done before always we still and of back where we started. And some restaurants are fishing for any sort of sense of -- yes -- were on an. We're upward swing one that's consistent."

" I think the biggest. Bit of progress that it has come through over the last and it's difficult to say because of all that the violence going on Pakistan now. Is the fact that the Pakistani military is fully engaging. The militant base down South Waziristan and in that that's a big step -- we've not."

" He added but they've also been criticized police in the state as being. Very sympathetic to the Islamic extremists are they no longer sympathetic to Islamic extremist."

" It depends which ones are talking about I hate to put it that -- because because. They know now I mean it public element the public enemy number one has -- to the Massoud who was killed by US drone strike and dead government came out and said that -- this was just after the the battle in Swat Valley over the summer so that that the military and the government had this for the people going after the militants and they still do. Particular based on the thought violence has been going on over the last couple weeks but when you talk about. Does everyone you know did."

" We have an even mention drones I am I'm what I am most every in the papers here is that the Texas citizens are fears about the drugs because they say 99% of the of the head destined drones are Pakistani citizens and not Islamic extremists that. -- is not a in this now particular popular topic among the Pakistani citizens here."

" No it's stepping not and we can go back to our -- about the anti American sentiment. That is what has really been the spine. That more recent anti US and -- the fingers were always pointed that. The drone attacks. And the numbers but it US military US government won't talk about. Number of what deaths yet to have what I never trust that would. Anything really mean it it really they will not get into the details and we that was witnessed by secretary Clinton's visit this week several times is asked a question that. It was completely avoided. Why because. Essentially the if the US summon. On camera. Quotable. US government official military official says yes these drones have been going on and obviously we've been speaking with Pakistan military about it. This place would implode because that would mean. That confirm if that would confirm that the Pakistani government and the -- any military. Allowed. The US army or CIA to engage. In their territory and that's -- the pakistanis to school that the government will never do that we'll never do you mean there. Their sources and their people on background saying yes there is. Collusion. With the government that they're giving them. Permission for these attacks this is this I think it's a burger place. To convert its ticket third but. That it isn't home yet hunger and banana and as a chick peas there Oates chopped and -- to its. CH -- T get to this is a yogurt sauce with these pockets -- it's down. I think it's chickpea flour this meeting Friday into the pocket and -- put different sauces. As an attempt album I -- from here and but I've had a before it's. Kind of similar to get its shot platter you get different kind of dishes that are primarily me attitude -- ticket that's to. It is. Storm. What isn't swarm of trauma as XE more Middle Eastern and Pakistan."

" Newly look at me this is chicken but it did they have lamb. Is this ice guy examine it okay if I she's still a lot of -- allow land. Yet here yet this man is making these drilling of the Peta. These -- Mormon and of course prize. I think this is -- area. British. Colonial hangovers every time you get any when these diseases chips on my eyes eyes as he sometimes even ruled inside -- as well. This is actually mountains and besides -- It's but says. Yogurt in mint chopped it. It's really read it and there's -- in Afghanistan when I first tried it there. But similar care and it's -- and put it on and and it needs but also with via the child that job."

" How is the -- you're generally it's done. For me I don't -- a lot of meat so can be kind of challenging because that is the core of the Pakistani cuisine is thrilled me. Hedonistic in a flatter me in a -- So that's -- housing but. In the -- and get closer to the Indian border there's a lot more. Punjabi tied to -- has a lot of vegetarian options like doll. Lentils. What -- kind of rice and that shot platter that's."

" When Madison Indiana recently and only flew back down fact that states we flew over the Indian border Indian Paxton a boarding order the deep pass and we look -- as a string of lights all on board BC."

" I haven't seen from the air now but that's probably you probably came through. Wherein India refined from."

" Mumbai and headed back to. Expected estates and headed towards. These two presidents."

" Yes and I was probably more toward the board -- its due east from here around that -- area because that's kind of street lights -- like Chris Iannetta each."

" A exactly what that's it's probably the check posts along the border towards is that the pill boxes of the column you know two or three guys in it. In a little observation post. Probably every you know maybe. Three miles four miles a thing like that in in higher concentrated areas and I think that's probably why you're. The reasons as to your price flying over the area around before where there's a lot of protection."

" I mean this to simplify -- By this dispute between India and Pakistan but does it all stemmed from in 1947 when the British broke up this area there empire. And you -- Kashmir. Which is a Muslim. Population but decide to go with India which is what has so deeply offended the pakistanis."

" What. Part of the problem was the actual division and and Kashmir wasn't mapped out that the border was a map that all that well see you had. Muslims who were on the Indian side who had family on the Pakistani sides he had that kind of conflict there because of a loosely drawn border. -- as far as kind of overall conflict between the two nations it is that I mean can you imagine. Millions of people being told that they have to you live on that side of the border -- live on the side of the border based on their religion -- an ad that's."

" The oppressed Lincoln and the people Kashmir practice their Muslim religion the Indian government lets -- do that yes yes acting side to this Anderson here is whether. Because the of this dispute -- and -- Scania deep it runs for both these countries it is a dispute that predates most the population at this point."

" yeah no it does definitely and it it is. That from my understanding and density Indian cinecast may have only been to the Pakistani side of Kashmir and but from what I've heard yes they can practice that but it's. The religious tension in this part of the world in need in these two countries is horrific he talked about. Everything is -- Hindu and and Muslim. It is Christian I mean there are there examples of riots Krista -- against Christian populations here in Pakistan. That killed dozens of people it was based on a rumor that ended up being false. And you have Gujarat's has been very hot area on both sides of the border this is actually went and fairly new hotel is this -- Then they've been building it is today I think. Two or three trips they had out here. There it's been probably six years in the works and it's not that elaborate of a design -- Much sir it stay I think they'd initially wanted to be apartments -- an attendant to a hotel room filled with apartments with with tenants."