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Panel Plus: 10/25

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Panel Plus: 10/25

Published: Sun, 25 Oct 2009

Description: The 'Fox News Sunday' panel discusses Obama's pending decision on a strategy on Afghanistan after the show

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" Welcome to FOX News Sunday panel -- the Bill Kristol Mara Liasson Dana Perino and Juan Williams so let's talk about Afghanistan because we didn't talk about it on the panel. And we have not had a chance to weigh in on the Cheney White House fight Bill -- Dick Cheney saying that the president is did the ring he's afraid to make a decision. And he should just give general McChrystal what he wants."

" Which is not a surprise that that's what Dick Cheney thinks the total opposite thing. He also addressed what Rahm Emanuel said on Sunday show last week which was that about the Bush Administration left in the total mess and no plan. Which is just factually wrong as the vice president said general Doug -- that the national Security Council's in charge of the bush interagency group they came up the very big documents. Pakistan is that the -- can give us more tick -- that I have but. I gather at the president said let's let President Obama make the decisions given the -- it's his he's gonna take it over appointments of insulin. They handed her over Steve Hadley handed over to Jim Jones you incoming Obama and others what are your -- but vice president Biden said. Just the other day we you know what the plan with the relevant it did just how good we had to start from scratch so why I have talked with senior official. Not very political -- was in the foreign policy -- who says when. President promised a march 4 seventh and announced his plan it was the bush plan basically which is fine this is government working well incidentally. Doug -- is still there they kept some of the -- bill Bob gates is still there they kept some of the same people they kept the same -- in Afghanistan and Rahm Emanuel can't resist the cheap political shot at saint. The bush people left that's not a marvelous that lets look forward though to the question of when the president has been decide what is gonna."

" sounds like he's gonna wait till after the Afghanistan run off. And what where. Hearing now is that what he's gonna settle on is some combination of counter insurgency which means more troops on the ground in and among the population. And counterterrorism which was that. -- kind of Biden supported plans for more surgical strikes predator strikes against al-Qaeda targets. He can't do as it turns out you can't do countering terrorism without a lot of counter insurgency support because you need to get intelligence from the people in -- and a live among them and protect them. So that they can help you figure out what targets he should do when your surgical strikes I think that he's not gonna pick the 60000 upper end. Number of troops that McChrystal gave him when he gave him a menu of options but it's not going to be the status quo meaning."

" And probably confused because if but Morris says plays out Dana tells that the policy that we currently have we already have a -- of counterinsurgency and counterterrorism."

" My reading my -- and an incident and the real -- kind of a problem that this has taken so long as it takes a long time to get troops there. And it -- heading into the winter which in Afghanistan -- and brutal. Means that a weather lots of snow. Really hard to move around and yet have all -- that support them and the other thing is that the longer that we wait to make this decision the last intelligence that she -- about you need election gonna get. Because people on the ground and making a decision. How my going to be a -- eat a month from now child like myself with the Americans are they gonna be here a -- I myself with the Taliban could they say that they're gonna be here to take care of us."

" Americans are going to be there the president never served a report that question about strategy and it added troops. But I think the real division is not the one between vice president former Vice President Cheney and let's -- advice for current vice president Biden -- Obama White House over this I think it's really. About Robert Gates and from the things that Rahm Emanuel has the realistic about waiting until you have a stable government in place before been devising -- strategy. Defense Secretary gates saying that was used to him he thinks you've got to have a strategy even if there is they failed government in place. That's interesting because you know the government have to be a partner you have to have some degree of trust and cooperation. In you have to have a sense that these. I asked the citizens that we've just heard so much about offering information. Think that there interest is whiff of government that they believe in and with the American film with got to be a partnership effort to go forward there. And as far as ultimate decisions it at this point looks to me like you're gonna get the extra troops but I would ask. How many and for how long -- mean that we had eight years in which we have troops on the ground and we didn't have exactly any great success we have lots of luck lives lost we spent lots of money. So the question is what are we doing and where we going and I'm not satisfied that this is a citizen to want to know why we are putting more people in more -- with mortgages --"

" And is now have to make a lot of a lot of speeches he's gonna have to really explain this and -- this when he goes settlement policy I think you'll be able to do it but he's gonna have to answer your question. They disagree with -- that -- make any progress if you look at for example a fact that women and girls actually go to school now they can war. Yet in Banja province if you look at a map of Afghanistan the -- not a good one yesterday. Body -- province is now run by a woman governor. And this is unheard of you do have a big problem and you have -- on the border with Pakistan and we know that that's going to be a problem between -- and take a long time."

" Eagle handgun that's great I'm all for women run in the world but I understand when you that's not why we should be unit -- that we should be handed -- by an al-Qaeda. As intimately. And that's not allowed and al-Qaeda wants a successful attack in the last year instant no that's -- the that somehow they moved to Pakistan. It is -- the Pakistan army now actually going after them in place as they have company for what has launched sufficiently strong attacks against the Pakistan that the army's headquarters on my."

" We've done enough. Who could that we settled everything that we haven't settled everything and that's the point tell us what you think so please blog has sent FOX News Sunday dot com. Throughout the way tell us what to think we'll see you excellent."

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