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Published: Fri, 23 Oct 2009
Description: The Fox Car Report panel discusses the Lexus LFA and Ford F-150 Raptor
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" All right a speaker on it shows Tokyo motor show going on right now is -- as well as noted the foreign automakers went to -- for couples -- Tokyo motor show using one of the wild shows in the world. About the cars there just kooky crazy as he usually is over to Nokia. I."
" Think bid since we've adopted their there -- box style of styling a little bit here it just doesn't seem as wild anymore but. It's that they're still. When it comes the styling based on their own flair for sure."
" One of the big cars of the show we got a picture here at -- the Lexus LSA is is Lexus is first super car. 375000. Dollars to -- to. Miles per hour Alex. Does that look like a 375000. Dollar -- you."
" You know what I don't know that looks better so much anymore because styling has gotten to be kind of crazy in terms of exotic. You to a super high performance cars it's all about how the car performs I'm which will dictate whether or not it's worth the money. Toyota obviously feels like it's worth it because -- they're asking for -- probably going to be losing money on it. And it's -- this is another one that this almost this car has suffered from the same Camaro type terrible disease in five years we've been seeing federations of this car. You know we've seen two different kinds of versions and you know nonstop chatter it's been in the the it's been in that a couple twenty Ferrari's over the past over the past years so it's such exciting to see. I know that there's a bunch of guys down in Miami today driving it I know. There's videos being posted. -- of the car running homestead. Miami speedway. As we speak. And it sure sounds great and and in the early feedback from the people that have we started talking is is that it's the real the real deal."
" Only 500 going to be made match -- If you have the money maybe do fraud though is that a car that -- in your garage in the future. I say I I'll tell you summing right now. There are skeptics everywhere but if there is going to be a super car that is worth them that kind of money. I honestly feel like this is gonna be it my mom is has had like six Lexus is in the last ten years. None of them have ever broke in the ever. And and this far you know like Alex said it's been running around the racetrack for years we've seen. Different concept version I really think that Toyota has done their homework and really really tested this car to his limits. And I feel I give you can build a car that performs like that and really does have. Lexus is reliability record and ease of maintenance -- record. Then I mean you're gonna have a car that may cost more of fraud but in the long term you're gonna save a lot of money on maintenance and it. And I'd bet you could daily drive this car without any -- I -- you and without any mechanical issues."
" Specs are serious -- 52 horsepower for -- your -- Tenet it's have you heard the thing and I out of Formula One cars on the -- it sounds exactly like a Formula One car I think if they get I think if they didn't do themselves a favor on this car it's that they have it on the show floor next to that FT 86 which is a 25000 dollar car. It doesn't look too much different than they have that -- T 86 is every bit as important if not more so than probably more so how did they think they're taught me this look a little different than it does."
" For whatever how however they arrived at the styling I mean I've stopped trying to figure out how auto -- is -- right you know the waste out cars. Anymore but as halo vehicle I mean this is this is a very big deal for Toyota. Which everybody hammers regularly for building appliances and this is. Far from an appliance that I just put read about this far yeah well it's been a long time and this is a genuinely exciting thing in -- debate. You come come through with production version of that 56 which in other spy shots of you know of one of the -- editorial review -- room you'll you know -- cut cobbled together by work you know laughing and evergreen already. You know it's it's it's -- it's a big deal for. Compact with performance or on this ultra high end to sort of announce it and then. You know hopefully in the Napster's future with the --"
" And particularly coming from a company that -- out is the poster child for green the fact that they're put so much importance of performance car as least we know that you know sports cars still safe you know have fun. You do have to have fought and won one completely different way to have -- I took a couple weeks ago we're going out California. To drive the Ford F 150 -- rather review Arafat's carport dot -- couple weeks ago. Never got to talk about the -- and that Farah. He was at the same event we wrap but he also entered one of these things in the bull run rally was --"
" Yeah -- I actually. I think with the exception of any Ford employee I think I may have more miles and a raptor than anyone on earth. We put 6000. Highway miles on one and about two weeks. And addition of additional. 200 off road miles on one. In another weekend. So I definitely know the ins and outs of this car per share. My challenge to view as practically a Ford employee regarding this vehicle tell me what you don't like about it before something you do like. They're only a couple of things I don't like about it one is. That at least the version I drove had to stop five point four liter power plant and it. Wish to be perfectly honest is fine. Except when people see it on the street they wanna know what's under the hood and when you tell them that it's -- stopped 54. They get kind of is disappointed look on their -- Helping and it's really it's really sad so. They're solving that would afford horsepower boss engine next year. Additionally I wish it it had hired top speed limit Iran is limited to a hundred miles an hour. Which is extremely fast on dirt. But I think if it had an extra twenty mile an hour on it on the highway. We might have finished a little bit better in the -- Yeah I'm sure that's a pretty easy chip. -- there a hundred -- speed and up to him you know obviously I for those 6000 miles I averaged about eleven miles per gallon well that goes the dynamics on this not look good that's eight inches wider now -- gets in the refrigerator. But I think issue whether -- there was the transmission I'm still waiting for it to kicked out you step on the gas and it just doesn't want to down shift for -- at all and you have no manual control whatsoever that they really need to work that was another thing I suggested to the Ford employees was that they make -- a manual paddle shift or some sort of manual override option for the transmission. Just in case especially when -- off roading."
" Just in case you don't know everything about this truck it's it's -- do offer are basically an off road desert racer. In disguises a streetcar it's got a special suspension that's what it was amazing things you've ever seen far shocks triple bypass shocks that gets stiffer is they compress. We were driving this thing out the desert eighty to 9800 miles an hour over what you do is you about it not even wants."
" I did hit a bump stops a couple of times. After going over what most people would consider a jump. I definitely got three or four feet of -- At at certain times with -- no damage to the car at all it's really it's an unbelievable piece of hardware and and what's really unbelievable about it is not the off road capability which you could theoretically build yourself. It's being able to do that and then just -- right back on the highway drive home. And it's as comfortable as anything else. That that you can buy in the truck world."
" Get a suspension actually order and that's the amazing part I can't believe they made all those changes to do it for forty does -- stuck with the stock engine basically the stock transmission. But between the body work and the suspension work. You know people look at that total forty -- for truck. That would be a sixty grand try to be tried to build it yourself."
" Oh at least at least. I mean and it's it's really it's if we put so many miles on it with three people and all this stuff we had. And it was as comfortable as as anything else they we could have asked for I mean I'm six foot three and I spent 56 hours at a time in the backseat of it. And it was cool it was fun."
" sell as many as they can make in the next year they're apparently going to be adding a full four door crew cab version as well real question is. And they opened up -- new genre is this a one off that Ford's doing or maybe you see a Silverado sidewinder something like that coming down well."
" If if what they have done is opened up a genre where there encouraging people to try this sport of off roading. And it's a really enjoyed the truck for what it's capable of then I'm the habeas person on earth because I'd like seeing people really using these these cars for what that meant for. On the other hand if the new trend is being off road vehicles that soccer moms -- gonna use to get groceries. Then we have just taken a huge step backwards in the inefficiency. Well if guest is 250 gal will probably be back in those days for suspicious vehicle trucks like this that -- could drive. I tell you I'd really like to see. V between term post six ego boost engine and one of these trucks and see how the fuel mileage versus power delivery compares."
" That would -- one of those pikes -- trips -- now -- yeah yeah definitely I don't use the brown car -- yes what do you think about the color choices -- aren't as the poster -- but they also have a blue black and why can't -- about the frankly I don't I think I'm in the minority here because I -- Ford is selling a lot of the -- in the -- I'm so sick of seeing the orange. The blue I like the blue like that I like seeing the other three colors to black and white and blue and I also liked seeing them without that graphics package which looks like he's. Ripped from the eighties -- applied to the -- yet had a bad I don't like that that is -- you how much that option costs how much is it. It's 800 but that's insane. Yet it's a bit much yeah digital dirt they can't tell you they had a couple of white ones out there in the desert looks really good white. Which mr. got to do an opera that's really the color you want to -- with scratches and it it's certainly easy enough to get your own dirt on it. Yet no doubt about that there. Now why I'm I'm excited about this -- loudly here's the thing you know as a -- Ford's special vehicle team that hitting the -- in the Middle -- street trucks trying to turn trucks. In the performance was finally we're back to turn in the truck into the ultimate expression of what truck is supposed to finally back to more than one as the key vehicle but that it. -- it would get I don't know about you guys but I prefer my sports -- to look like sports aren't exactly yeah I don't wanna I you know. It's truck it's supposed to carry things supposed to take -- offer are exposed to do things cars can't do that's -- you by truck and I'm just glad that they've taken it to the ultimate level."
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