Mall Murders?

" uncovering plans for a deadly terrorist attack. On US soil proving again we cannot let our guard down. Prosecutors claim to -- tried to gain training. Access that terrorist camps overseas and the two co conspirators they say he planned to murder Americans -- shopping malls. And in the military base in Iraq. And targeted to politicians for assassination. The question we're all asking is how big a threat does a guy like this pose and bring in Bob strain is a former federal DEA agent. He's the co chair of the New York State legislative anti terror task force Bob good to have you matrix it is amazing to me these guys who who are consistently going over to these training camps -- wanting to go to these training camps in yen in Pakistan. In in these Middle Eastern countries and you that the question is why do you feel like they have to go get legitimized by al-Qaeda these various."

" Oops well remember these are the homegrown terrorists that we worry about this is the number one problem for the FBI we see it with the -- that are being made across the country. They want to go there are so that they can kill as many people as possible when they come back to the United States or Europe or wherever there is Simon is. They want to know how to use explosives how to use communication systems how to use the automatic weapons site where to get the -- how to make the bombs they wanna learn everything for me dizzy. That's why it's such a big deal when they are radicalized to be able to move into this situation go to these training camps and come back and -- the best possible job in their mind. That they can do. There -- some indication these guys might not have been allowed in some of the training camps -- an indication that maybe some of the terror groups al-Qaeda. Don't look at these guys is legitimate players like you know what we're we're not we're not doing this with you. Well you know one of the big problems is that they worry that their informants because you know. When you say they kick in the camps and camps love to recruit people unfortunately. And but what they're smart about is that the government's. Use military operatives -- use undercover operatives within our government. And other governments to go win and find out what's going on so there's a real process to get at least training camps you have to be recommended by a certain number of people you normally have to have criminal acts in connection to your background to be -- again it's like an exclusive club for terrorists you can't just walk in the front door here's the thing that scared me about this is they they dropped apparently dropped the small plot plot when they couldn't get the automatic weapons to kill enough people to make it. I guess in -- in their estimation worth their while. Does that scare you at all that you think it has to be such grand scale in the years past 9/11 that you don't try it unless you can do it on a big big big time guys you know that's really where we're headed unfortunately in the US attorney acting US attorney in Boston said you know he's surprised that we haven't seen these kinds of things happened before. We've been really lucky and good at the same time when you take a look at -- last two weeks ago. Other cases that have been made. They really do wanna kill as many people as possible and you don't and which if it's so clear to me that this is on the forefront in terms of these homegrown terrorists. That are right here on our own back yard across our country. We have to keep aware because Trace -- this is just as an accident waiting to happen. Proud of product groups malls trains -- and undergraduate soft targets are hotels restaurants everywhere soft targets a scary thing Bob. Thank you very much."