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Fighting Words?

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Fighting Words?

Published: Wed, 14 Oct 2009

Description: Ron Paul responds to Lindsey Graham's comments

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" South Carolina Republican senator Lindsey Graham faced and angry crowd on Columbus Day at a town hall meeting. -- what libertarians and tea party action. The senators said well we're not going to be the party and some of those comments were met with shouts of Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul. Graham responded by saying I'm not going to let -- turn to the Republican Party be hijacked by Ron Paul black. It's now my pleasure to introduce the object of senator Graham's -- One of America's great defenders of freedom and liberty today congressman Ron Paul joins us from our nation's capital he is of course the author. Of the New York Times best seller and the Fed. Congressman Paul welcome back to freedom watch. Thank you -- nice to be -- thank you was so what does senator Lindsey Graham worried about what why is he so afraid of you congressman Paul."

" I don't know I guess we'll have to ask you don't but he does seem to be over reacting to the other question that somebody might ask him is. Who who does set the standards for the party is if he doesn't like what I'm talking about does that mean he gets to set the standards and and new people can't come in because they take a different position and then neo conservatives. I mean I think there should be driven Republican party for traditional conservative constitutional -- and that's what I call myself. So I don't know why he would want to exclude us especially since there's a -- appeal. Too many young people. And on that right now the average Republican doesn't appeal to college kids so. I yeah I think he should be asked these questions because I can't look at his mind and say what's going on."

" I don't I don't know how the George Bush John McCain. Lindsey Graham version of the Republican Party can't even make an argument that it is faithful to first principles like the constitution. Like limited government. Like individual Freddie have freedom and like the free market -- and how they can make that case for themselves."

" Now they vote for big spending and that their foreign policy is very dear old fashioned. It's part of the democratic pride in Democratic Party about pursuing war needlessly. Going to war without declarations subsidizing the military industrial complex. Not caring about personal liberties and -- endorsing programs like. On the Patriot Act in not being concerned about protection of all individual rights as the constitution does. So I don't. I don't know why they should have a monopoly control of the Republican Party. Maybe the fact that that's their position as a reason the Republican Party hasn't done the last several elections."

" The air Republican Party seems to be or at least -- Lindsay Graham John McCain's from whom might hear much you. Backing up general my crystals urgings on the president. To commence a massive land war or to increase the massive land war in Afghanistan. And we learned any lessons from recent history."

" Well I don't think we've learned the recent history -- I don't think we've learned ancient history to you know. Afghanistan is essentially never been conquered it's run by tribes they don't seem to want to. Move in the modern world but. If they're not attacking us they have been invaded our country. The metallic -- for instance is incapable. Of attacking anybody they just -- be left alone just because we don't like their lifestyle and we don't think there. Doing the right thing and maybe because we want to put a gas pipeline through their country all these things add up. Two -- us being very much involved there so yes here we have. The so called neo conservatives the content that if they are going to give us the conservative credentials they're supporting Obama they want. They want to Obama not only to continue it that they want to even do more so there is a mixed message there you know and."

" In this Sunday's this coming Sunday's New York Times magazine. There's an interview with general -- and -- when I got a little sneak -- of that I think they caught him off guard perhaps and if you'll forgive me. And unguarded moment when they said to him. But if the government of Afghanistan is illegitimate if it's based on a fraud. If it's not even based unlawful accurate. Elections. How can we justify our presence there. And he said well. Maybe will be an unwelcome guest how can we even legally be there there isn't even any real government whether it's fraudulent or not of that country as they."

" Now and that would be a major point that even -- in the hid behind some legal lease that's documents they all. Karzai asked this to be there."

" The whole thing is is that people don't want us there they see this occupiers. They did not strike out against us this whole idea that the -- on. Is the is the culprit and the enemy that's just not the case and then we don't we chased them around we chased him over in Pakistan. And now we're using that as a justification to go to war in Pakistan. Send money into Pakistan so what we've done we've come lately we've cause chaos in that country we have."

" The civilian government against the military government and now. Now we're actually looking like what we're trying to really do is put there and get control of their nuclear weapons I mean you talk about provoking people. And this is must be from an administration that was going to -- and speak more softly. They might speak more softly that you got to look at the actions and right now the actions are every bit as militant. As they were in the previous -- administration congressman Paul why should we and the Federal Reserve. Because it facilitates. These kind of programs that we're pursuing a receives it facilitates war when people don't endorse a war we don't declare the war. We can't afford it. If we had to tax the people they wouldn't pay the taxes but also facilitates all the spending here at home it facilitates deficit. It facilitates a corrupt system where the Federal Reserve behind the scenes can bail out their buddies they don't even want their books look at the finance."

" And has benefited by their actions and they dealing trillions and trillions of dollars."

" They actually can subsidize foreign governments and foreign central banks to do their bidding. So it's time for the American people -- now why government is out of control when why and how it's related to the Federal Reserve System. "

" Are you optimistic threats -- legislation which seems to be getting more and more co sponsors with -- every tick of the clock. Will likely pass in a form and style and manner. That will facilitate a real true open audit of the Federal Reserve."

" I think the odds are pretty good -- something will be passed that would give us the authority to do an adequate audit. That doesn't mean it will end up with an adequate audit. Because the Federal Reserve and the powers that be will fight it tooth and nails they're going to take you through the courts of justice are taking through the suits against have a reserve. On the Freedom of Information Act they're just tied up in the courts. They'll -- this legislation up the courts and unfortunately that courts have always ruled in favor of the state over the people when it comes to monetary matters."

" Yes you're right the courts have this. Wacky principle on I don't even know where it came from you know I've studied this all of my adult life that we will we will assume. But the Congress's judgment is correct on matters of economics whether it violates the constitution are not. If congress made this economic decision to transfer wealth from here to there -- give this power from the elected representatives. To a super secret bank we're not gonna get involved. Yeah unfortunately that's the case we don't have very many constitution within our Supreme Court over the many years. Congressman Paul thanks very much thanks for joining us some freedom watch thank you done. You can catch today show on foxnews.com. Slash freedom watch. And I'm serious 145 XM 168. Or online at Fox News talk dot com. At 6 PM eastern on Saturdays. From New York defending freedom until the next time. --"

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