Time for Action?

Published: Sun, 27 Sep 2009

Description: How should the U.S. react to Iran's missile launch?

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" According President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says the west is all wrong when it comes to its nuclear program. But following this missile launches today is it time for the US to take action in Iraq. Or two minutes or is the author of losing bin Laden and the editor of The Washington Times editorial pages thank you for joining us threats from things. I'll what do you make of this situation here and we talk about sanctions we talk about keeping all of our options on the table. What will really get through to Iran if anything."

" Well probably not negotiations apparently American intelligence has known about the second location for enriching uranium for some time just now became public through a leak. This means that the Obama administration was most likely holding back this information. Reserved for the congress and the public. Would put great pressure on about illustration to ignore negotiations. And moved towards -- measures but as long as they did they keep this from the public negotiations seem like a plausible alternative. Now the president is in a real box. The Iranians have proven willingness to defy the UN. The new and improved United States which has the face Obama about that make it from there none of these things few things to see you working. Clearly Iran's don't want to give up their -- weapons they've learned from the north Koreans but you can have these weapons and keep your keep her hold on."

" And to they've got these talks coming up this week in Geneva with several key powers. Do you think it'll make any headway with Iran because we've heard a lot of their officials number of them coming -- were shocked about the -- that the west is responding to this. I find that hard to believe I."

" And shock chocolate the character from Casablanca yet -- that a lot of cynicism that goes along with diplomacy especially. When you move he's the -- river enough in Eastern Europe. But the Russians especially than selling anti aircraft. Weapons and radars to the Iranians for some time. They've recently upgraded their radar system around some of them more than 24 sites that are linked to their atomic weapons program more. And it's a peaceful energy program to Q but. The that the Russians who actually involve a program more than 300 scientists. Are now Russian scientists and owned a share which is a key Iranian side. It's likely that the Russians want to protect that investment -- in Iran agreed anti American investment. And continue to vote no on UN Security Council. Which would mean then they'll block any meaningful measures what about Israel scenario what kind of operation or response that we expect to see from. Well this is -- thirty -- important modification of aircraft where can now go for much longer range than previously. A few years ago I was as recently as 2006 if Iran if he's really wanted to bomb Iran that aircraft could get there but not back the Houston of the fuel capacity. Now they've modified aircraft to carry out exactly that kind of mission that summit should concentrate the mind of any."

" All right and we want to remind folks we've been monitoring this building in the -- to dislike come down there in implosion of a building from back in 1972. A looks like it did that with a Lotta precision air it's the smoke is standing out there over the parking lot but the area had been secured and folks were on hand. Able to watch that 150 pounds of explosives. Rigged up that building and and midtown Phoenix. It was one of the first glass and steel structures ever put up there. And it looks like it has come down as expected you know it's interesting -- the building back in 2004 was spot for twelve on half million dollars to have to wonder the investor there was simply going after the real estate. But the building is down it is no longer and that now we will wait to see. What springs up in its place. Brits think he's -- much an up -- letting a cigarette to your very important interview -- to thank you for sharing your insight we will certainly watch and and wait to see how are trying to. The situation plays out this week with these talks as well. Thank you can."

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then of course that would surprise no longtime observer of the UN Security Council . What I'm told is that in the official public statements China and Russia. And even Iran of course we're taking the view that this was a legitimate will launch of the satellite by North Korea . What I've learned from US officials today is that in the private behind the scenes talks no one is maintaining that -- any kind of straight face they all know that this was a cover for ballistic missile launch. We should point out. Brett that experts who have observed this launch are telling us that they expect more missile launches from North Korea . Possibly in the next ninety days and that we should all be careful about. Terming this a failure but not only does this go twice as far as previous. Missile launches by North Korea . But it actually contrary to what some have been saying including US Northern Command. The three stage rocket actually may have gotten into its third stage before things fell apart so this was. -- quite an advance over previous tests and we should expect to see more tests from North Korea sooner rather than later.

your poll which is what should the US do in response to North Korea's missile launch. And we've seen the administration talked about a response that was going to happen. And going to happen quickly there

to get China and Russia to sign on to issuing by the Security Council . A formal resolution condemning this rocket launch by North Korea . What the Chinese the Russians one is to issue a kind of a less forceful document it's called a statement it really

lot of the comments were getting Candace says inaction at the UN Security Council what a shocker of waiting grave. How dangerous is that that the US is cutting defense as well as taking no action -- North Korea Iran and China a lot of comments about that. James you in your interview with ambassador rise. She said something that I've

Charles the question here. We have is from Alex how close is North Korea's missile program to anything impressive he just heard James say that it may have gotten too. That third stage then going rhetoric is -- come on North Korea is not a threat why should we worry about. Well it's a matter of the progress it's making we don't know if

a presidential statement which is the weakest of all. -- the UN Security Council was able to do. It shows that our trip abroad are built Obama in Europe on this abject apology Elvis listening. Well this America is no longer going to dictate or be dominant. Is being received well around the world and we are not dictating and dominating anybody. And as a result even at the UN we're getting nothing. Jim should we be putting like a clock up. For how long this takes to get anything out of the UN Security Council and whether that says something about the administration's poll. With member nations I don't think so if you listen to the conversation here and and look at the history of dealing with North Korea whatever comes out of Security Council and it doesn't seem like it's -- matter whatsoever to do a darn thing to her. And North Korea as long as you have China and Russia living and be resistant to doing these things and I think Charles.

talking look at -- fallen into the weapons yet you know if North Korea doing this testing and I don't think this is an. That could -- I agree with chiles and that the fact they

Yes Sharon says North Korea just wants attention. Number of questions about Japan's reaction and here's one. That says. What do you think from -- what do you think the Obama administration's threshold for any military action is in North Korea -- zero. -- I think it's I think that he would be a great synagogue or aggression against the south of me

ought to be sanctions in this case and you know I don't. North Korea has been a problem for everybody was a problem for Bill Clinton is a problem for George Bush it's not going to be a problem for Obama. I think that that that that this whole missile situation. Calls for our world robust. Development of anti missile and anti missile system. Instead of the instead of doing that the administration is pulling back from -- missiles. It's not only North Korea that's got that's kind of missile. In in February. Or Iran launched a satellite which means that Iran has tonight's CBM it's it's called a soft peer to. And so if they've got they've got the missiles North Korea's got the bomb. North Korea doesn't have the missiles yet. Iran's got the bomb there is this is gonna develop a bomb what we need is an

mentioned and that is at a time when these rogue regimes like North Korea and Iran are developing not just the missiles. Two big they've reached our allies or perhaps ourselves but the nuclear warheads to

Clinton recently and on that trip. She had some comments about whether North Korea really does have. A nuclear weapon I -- they're going bad is -- they have multiple weapons but she talked about that publicly. But what what is that did that for my secretary Clinton about. The nuclear program in North Korea . Well top US intelligence officials -- have testified publicly that they believe that. On North Korea that this was a couple of years ago when George Tenet was director of CIA testified publicly. The North Korea was believed to have two to three nuclear weapons that arsenal is presumed to have grown over the because this administration backing

there's no discussion of dispute about that. And about the fact that North Korea has an arsenal of nuclear weapons based on plutonium that's been reprocessed. The question that is still disputed is whether or not

negotiate our support for Taiwan. As incentive for China to help with North Korea China is really the linchpin here Charles and everybody here.

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where there was an insistence that there would be no discussion analysts North Korea . -- movements towards disarmament the latter part of the second Bush Administration policies were -- in line with the six party talks and there was progress on denuclearization. But that is something the hope was in the new administration there would be carry over but North Korea has not responded when they blew up that cooling tower has supposedly a demonstration of their. Plans to. But a cooling towers pretty easy to rebuild right. There is much more straightforward approach to rebuilding something like that but the priority is that that we processing stage. North Korea has spent fuel and material the plutonium from that spent fuel can be your process to weapons grade. So the concern right now is that north Chris preparing for another nuclear test well it seems that you know the Obama administration has really. Gone the extra mile to have sort of reach out to the north Koreans make them feel comfortable. We've gotten essentially want in return. Very little we saw in the April 5 the north Koreans testing their missile and please basically framing that as a satellite launch and the response that in the UN Security Council . Has led to the series of statements where we're at right now with the north Koreans are basically saying. That they'll improve their nuclear deterrent yeah when they say that it sounds like they want to build more bombs. That's correct and if they do the second missile test in addition to what they've done an April 5 and another nuclear . Test in the coming months then that something that changes the nature of the negotiations right now there's a framework in place for -- denuclearization. But -- North Korea continues to go down this path of ratcheting up the tensions. Makes it very difficult to go back to the denuclearization wrote

To the standoff now in North Korea over its nuclear program a US envoy is taking the carrot and stick approach with. Stephen Bosworth saying he's keeping all options open Nicholas. If the north. Koreans decide to carry out a second nuclear test we will deal with the consequences. And there will be consequences. But there. We can't control of this state toward North Korea does we certainly. Very much hope that they will not do a second nuclear test .

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From that. That's China North Korea saying that it will restart it's nuclear arms program. This after -- a big show last June when the rogue nation imploded its -- nuclear facility remember that. To demonstrate and they were -- and nuclear weapons program at that point analysts warning and then didn't really -- to watch it looks like they were right. Now of course the UN can -- this launch this in -- North Korea is April -- missile launch. And they -- it at the UN -- unanimous vote in the Security Council says this is what set off the most recent firestorm. Of angry rhetoric from the Kim Jong Il redeem the north is now saying. They don't want to talk anymore they're gonna pull out of the six party disarmament talks William Cohen is a former secretary of defense and chairman of the Cohen group. Good to have you with us today -- But it was so it's actually a little bit about your assessment in Hawaii North Korea has a way of doing this back and forth through team with us and listening in -- Concessions along the way is

the arrest in the world makes it very difficult for people of North Korea today you have access. Acted outside world to want something different their own government and even to perhaps in trying to make

types of materials to the extent that they continue to build -- nuclear weapons . There's a risk that that mature warmed up the hands of terror groups. That'll be unfortunate for all concerned so I would hope that China Russia to would join and -- much more than simply criticizing were condemning the North Korea's . Should they would send a much stronger signal saying that we are united and saying that that -- not going to be

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