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Handling Iran

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Handling Iran

Published: Fri, 25 Sep 2009

Description: Karl Rove on what Obama must do about Iran

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" top -- let's bring in Fox's house call -- from Austin Texas for his perspective on the shocking developments today. And they were shocking -- not mr. rove I mean hero brown who is stronger than Obama. Basically say -- get in line for years and now enough enough and we're gonna do something we don't know what that is. I I was a little taken aback by the tall."

" Tell -- Jose and brown bulls had very tough tones but tougher than President Obama and I thought that was a good sign. But let's not kid ourselves we have a very difficult path ahead. October 1 there's going to be a meeting between the Iranians and the permanent members the united nations Security Council plus Germany. We have United States. Britain and France. Being very tough -- on the need for action sanctions we've got the Russians didn't really Mel's saying. Well we -- an investigation and ID EA must get involved immediately in the we got the Chinese send out there saying what can negotiate and discuss -- we don't see any need for sanctions. And the Germans have their elections this fall and Merkel is going to be a little bit constraining what she says until -- are over."

" Now when you're in the White House. Dealing with the Iranian government -- they just crazy over there isn't just a matter of they want to get. As much weaponry as possible so they can kill Jews and Americans everybody else or are we missing some of the subtleties. Well look on the new John is -- not. That's a technical term all right so you usually elements obviously you believe that obligated -- is an unstable. Is mentally on -- tell you believed that what you're saying he."

" He believes the things that he says about the Holocaust and about Israel he believes passionately firmly in the need to destroy the State of Israel. He is you know he is is as ugly in it as as as can be and that's not to say he represents RA."

" and not always in relation a power and -- sure there and so if he is mentally unstable. I mean he can do some damage now when you and President Bush would dealing with -- Was there anything they would --"

" On -- Well sure things respond to pressure. They had for me for that they're actually -- let's keep it in context they -- country that is vulnerable. They import virtually all their -- stuff they've written a day import almost all their consumer goods and -- very rest of the very young country. The most commonly watch the most popular television programming in Toronto originates from Los Angeles, California. The import 50% of their gasoline even though -- petroleum producing country. They have very few financial institutions and allow them to conduct their trade. When we found one that was clearly involved in the in the support of terrorism and in essence told every -- in the world you do business without -- financial institution. You will not be doing business in the United States. All the banks in the world stop doing business was -- financial institution and -- the economy so of of firing and so yes they are vulnerable. And we do have pressure that we can bring to bear on a particularly now that there's been an election. Andy fissures inside the Iranian nation are becoming invisible and -- deep."

" It albeit pretty. You guys had eight years though and he didn't really constrained Enron I'm not saying that as a criticism because I don't know of any human being -- it without attacking them. That was out of frustration for President --"

" Well it's a frustration that we couldn't get the international -- we -- we -- patiently working to get the international community to recognize the threat and to move India and frankly what today's strong statements by Sarkozy and brown. Would not have necessarily been -- we would've -- cancer in the same way that Sarkozy did today so there was progress over time when we were able to constrain solely. He'll make it more difficult for them to move down the path that they will move down but this is a there's a difficult problem the President Bush faced in the present Obama now faces and the question is. What can we do we now have an opportunity in the aftermath of the elections to play upon the fissures inside --"

" It is so they -- as soon -- they're doing is you have to assume that there they are doing that you know I'm not -- week I'm not certain we did enough during the bush years to do it in I'm not -- we don't -- that's -- we have covert activity we have a Central Intelligence Agency did do these kinds of things. And we have to. Hope that they -- I wanna take a look ahead now as we took a look back. So next week they start to chat it's not I don't have any confidence that these talks -- anywhere because hearings into -- they always do stringing along. They'll say some stuff. And then they'll you know continue to. You don't game the system that's. That's how I see it and unless -- warships. Right outside you know there territorial boundaries and start. You know -- a -- I don't see how they're ever gonna cooperate. Well."

" Couple things first call today I was interested that the French basically said they've got until December that would place any decision after the German elections. And we could conceivably find ourselves in December -- United States Britain France and Germany supported sanctions in Russia being ambivalent in China being against and that might be enough that might be enough so if the if the United States Germany France and Britain joined together -- sanctions we are do you we have sanctions on please we put him in in the ninety."

" I know -- been -- was really no way around what it is Israel gonna wait around. That long because Israel is that you know obviously the wild card here."

" Yeah well we shouldn't be trying we should be making our judgments based on whether or not they're gonna waiter and -- even more important is skated Germany aboard an -- require the German elections to be in this. Rear view -- are not coming up. But it might be that rather than looking for the perfect where the entire world community joins together through the United Nations on sanctions. That instead we say look we're willing to have the major economic Paris joined together Germany United States Britain France and we will impose sanctions unified on. On it and recognize it's not gonna be perfect that the Russians and the Chinese may still trying to do business with with -- But but a significant enough power like -- be better than nothing at all. Blockade is a problem you start putting we've got warships in the Persian gulf. We start blockade you know Randy and I -- we'll treat that as an -- well absolutely and they will respond accordingly that's absolutely well. Control thanks very much --"

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Charles the question here. We have is from Alex how close is North Korea's missile program to anything impressive he just heard James say that it may have gotten too. That third stage then going rhetoric is -- come on North Korea is not a threat why should we worry about. Well it's a matter of the progress it's making we don't know if
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