Pat Caddell

" Good morning and welcome I think case that I'm -- they'll -- your husband today -- a little bit dissect and discuss politics this morning. At a special guests with me now -- he is -- Fox News. Regular very learned man about that political issue is if -- he's a former Carter pollster. And was on that FOX & Friends this morning and Hannity wouldn't -- this woman's right. Lots of issues if you wanna talk to you -- specifically. About said that. The protests that White House is calling this brings Allen and fame that these people are out of control but -- that this -- that the -- calling people evil and what's going well."

" It what's going on -- two things one it is they that they are blocked on their heels by the reaction. Part of it was you know in 1993. Who we care failed because the interest groups got together killed. So this year -- the Obama White House went around and basically bought all all of the interest groups form pharmaceutical industry. The AMA. VE RP. Lot of the insurance people. Figuring that would secure the deal all the promised Republicans -- Because in part of this is a larger issue because it goes -- what happened with car. And with the stimulus and with the fear that the deficits -- out of control in the economy. And in -- size city in June -- there. You know General Motors taking over General Motors was like a torpedo and help here it's really shook the country. Yes and this has been really underestimated how important it was so. But they've got as -- so what they --"

" So appealing that reverberates. I mean this -- with that helped -- this act is this is my old he."

" This is all part of a larger -- and health yours part of that -- it's not separate not voters' minds and if you listen with people of saint town meetings start he -- these -- comments. And the other thing is is but they think well what will do -- if we could focus attention. On making the opponents somehow it. Extremists than what we have. These will take the issue all of the specifics on health care which were there is -- bill we don't even know where it is a problem is is this. This is a democratic president I'm a Democrat. You weren't the DNC. But I'm stunned by the media the DNC head they ran which said there appeal to the law. The very special interest by the way that are financing to the tune of about 150. Million dollars of advertising for the White House the drug company. In the -- that this is saying that that the mob has been activated. Well whether that. You know that there's a national committee and incumbent president is -- wholly owned subsidiary that is Barack Obama speak. So why hasn't -- gone up to the president and said -- and are you using your review but few here and there and -- Because David Axelrod and -- Emanuel passed -- approve that ad going on the air. This is not something Tom -- thought up of -- zone. So this is it probably. Twelve -- This is the problem you know this is -- Ivins preaching this for years when the press it's in the bag for candidates and parties the -- doing the job that the the the First Amendment gives them the freedom for which is to protect all of us from the government. You know and it is -- precious to all policy hated the press because of opinions in the -- Now they've gotten into we are partisans and it's. It's theory because. The information doesn't get to the American people but it -- someone finance the president honestly I was never there -- prominent people -- the party common people what do you think you're doing. By orchestrating a campaign that says that people are ma look at it in what has happened is people insult the -- holiest -- People who were seeing the town music and want the scene on fox -- the good news. -- been running a lot of it is seeing people say those are my neighbors those two people agree that these are not crazy activated."

" I -- even after Hannity last happening right. College my college roommate and her husband is that we're getting an eighty -- We're going to town home and then we're getting involved we've never done -- will be built compounds and motivating."

" People feel we have not had a public reaction that's why it's it is bigger than health care it's a fear of what's happening in the country in -- People do not trust the government. The good in this notion that that that and that's why it's of the General Motors -- was an import. Did this stimulus the sense that you know how many airports are you going to build. The 28 million dollars or twenty people Alaska but doesn't get people upset. Or is used in this is it. And I don't understand the White House strategy that this is the -- table would really -- this country we have a political class. And we have mainstream America and it's not rest means he produced very important polling on how radical differences are and those opinions. And and I have to tell you something the American people are really against both parties the anger that just drew against George Bush and who goes back Abramoff scandals in the spending for Republicans deserted him independence. Now those independents who have been. It pretty reliable. Democratic constituency group for two elections are removing so far against. The president in his party. And I'm -- people that your intention. Pretending that doesn't exist pertaining to manipulate your way and -- the real thing. Barack Obama is -- like the president because there's certain bond that people were injected with him that he would be different politician. And that they trust him. You've -- in -- at present appointment cannot afford -- the sense that they are. That they're trustworthy this disingenuous he's walking a very announcing the White House we've listened. This you get the president being as disingenuous as he has all the -- an all -- and open debate -- having running ads. Using people being -- single injury and start -- stifle free speech all within you know in the news in the icu is CIU. You know I heard from the kind where we do these things you know -- the amazing part I -- the argument that corporate America. It is is watchers I have to tell you. Corporate America has money that the troops I mean these are people coming on their own and if I had not seen since -- thirty years and in the issue over Boston. The -- such as spontaneous grass --"

" It's remarkable has its own. And his -- and that is this isn't aimed at people who -- running act now."

" at that point people in the Gallup poll machine you're seeing people in -- that's how I feel these look like real people people Americans are not don't. This is part of the problem at Washington there is it an insult the arrogance with which Washington in the media treat the American people like the year peasants one of the things I said was. When you have seven senators out of 100 who have agreed to -- to -- here there. While some -- out of a hundred some. What that is probably the farmers center -- I'd say I was anyway what program. Now did but because their attitude is in this it was like -- how dare you question you peasants question the way we do business. I do you know I do well let me tell you something. Believe it or not folks in Washington it's not the monologue is -- country it's the American people."

" And they are angry about none and -- yet Davis slowing down as things aren't at. A thing."

" Big trouble if more and more are in the economy this -- and they're walking into a track this."

" You know the the real numbers in the economy and I was talking some very very brilliant London financial person listening to -- And it was eye opening the real economies -- I know something about statistics. The deal -- numbers starting with a month ago when we lost the -- Half million jobs and the rate only went up a tenth -- point this month -- quarter million jobs was down a quarter point I -- of the tenth -- point. Leave his -- that seems -- me just. They're talking about -- expanded -- we normally. When teenagers want I don't know interval work for for the summer there Arnold teenagers being higher -- and I. The angry that the dark and what's gonna happen is that seasonal just come September. When you watch and -- vehicles through the roof the -- and all the sudden they're -- they're saying. First of all two weeks ago let's say you can't judge a stimulus because -- stimulus has -- and spent. The other -- get up and say see the stimulus is working there walking themselves and the track this notion that you can on a daily basis. Put out but -- colts did and I hate to split Democrats or Republicans and washing all that the people are so stupid they won't give it doesn't."

" Doesn't work they did get it and you know -- speaking earlier on camera about sort of this myopic. You wouldn't bet the White House -- if it's just really."

" We've historically limited and with -- and this -- White House is not a historic reminders in the murder I was outside the weather's been very apples and apple Apple's. We have a -- Roosevelt room in the in the White House -- on some subject and everybody was sitting on the table in -- room of the glass of water. And I'm not making any sense about how much trouble in the position on the people of super doing this from Iraq and so finally held up he manages -- glances at. -- I said you see this -- and we're not arguing whether this is half -- and then we're arguing you people think to -- It's -- from him and it -- win and we can't deal with -- what's inside because we don't even understand what -- of the -- awarded -- that's the way the White House is this sense of -- independence it's here -- there it's in effect it's human nature it affects everyone. Well someone needs to tell Lucas apparently no one news and you can't just -- your campaign -- we'll just have to put campaign. And Mary. They want they -- to talk to some people who -- real experience that's you know you know you know Sobel and -- back and it. This that this is night -- we can't. You cannot campaign -- the White House. This is one and the president is taking these hits and statements popularity and so this is their real dangers here. And somebody on -- album before -- wake up it's out of all this happened well it's all happening because you're doing. -- On it's hard -- way we've been here. No what I'm telling right now what what is going on right now is look I believe and I'll see -- plan out the middle of people who MacWorld race. And it I don't think they're going to be close. And and in Virginia by the way Tom -- the sitting governor during about the -- it you know and I have to say the Republican -- pretty boring yet but even they should be we'll figure. That. You know you put this Africa -- in -- Tom -- answer but that's what he thinks of Virginians. And just give that a great -- for awhile you know I mean I can you know that. What date or had to do both lose those two governorships and officer right now -- close. They are looking at. 2000 and serious serious losses that a few months ago I've been saving hundreds of Washington Republicans have -- Wait to see what's coming picture because the Republican Party even though people are happy with -- they're looking forward -- the big red default button. Stop what's going on. Before these people go any -- the belief that the American people including now among Democrats it's happening is that when you depends you know. But big is denied it but a number of Democrats are being like all the race question you saw the numbers -- in the box. 72%. Said you should give the rest of the stimulus money back to the taxpayers. Wolf 59% of Democrats said that -- saying. Well this is a message does this does not work you know in this is -- saying. So there are the problem is they could lose this they can suffer amazing losses not because people endorsing Republican because. We -- all all the government and you're not talking about and we -- service. The notion that you were gonna -- On 51 votes in the Senate. Eight on parliament -- device to force through -- here. They will be riots in the country this is a sort of thing they won't blow the political process the American people are not been put -- of that kind of thing and and -- you know and I keep saying the best thing they could do. Is this is first of -- only too close to leave it means it's time for her -- Shia. She is a -- She is like an -- but for a week just but -- in the party over the side. And you know she's she's yourself and totally partisan -- speaker of the house. And her numbers are so bad and she is doing so much damage. And leadership -- which I have had most of her forearm was -- phones out there aren't California. And the Clintonism that either normal group of people. I represented a normal San Francisco is not that."

" Country I have yet that I didn't see a unique until it without them but you know get her numbers are -- And I think that's have been between them I think tank and Pelosi and her angry I mean let me play music that I am this."

" Is not a attitudes if -- ever run in 2000 -- know something right now it's very punishment to me it's not about on its simple take her read. Barney Frank Chris Dodd in the bunch and simply didn't John Conyers can get up and say these -- the people who run the country all. See the problem for the for democratic members -- That they cannot make the claim that individual independent. What you're saying it's the party lines so we're forced. These are the people when your voting your viewer vote is this is rooted in parliament reflecting an object. We will bomb out of the questions you want these people make decisions of the country and that's the issue. The Democrats better watch out you know -- counts if the -- 52. Democrats -- district -- by John McCain they have sixteen knowing Democrat sitting in districts you carried by McCain or bush. I've got news for you folks. This is very. These and if they can't reckoning has come because if -- not having the vote for the individual congress if you're saying I'm voting for whoever the Republican is I don't care -- they -- because I wanna stop. What Nancy Pelosi and you're doing then the Democrats you're in deep trouble and accent -- are back on -- right now -- should sweep the country. None of that the Republicans -- to do that but I'm telling you right now for what it's worth metropolitan. Bank and I think that I know some of the I am amazed and if you wanna go outside the single biggest. Bank as well but it was -- the biggest mistake in the end is -- in retrospect in my opinion will be the supplemental. Appropriations yeah. With the lives of many thousands of earmarks 11000 armor but it now. David it's known it was report -- that short urged Obama threatened veto. This is mark Obama has said I -- Vito you send me an earmark and I will veto it that was the details of those in March means one in ten minutes. Rahm Emanuel and the rest of the -- and owner no we can't upset the congress saying that the mall there for a week -- bomb went long now whether the Republicans who they had their moment of chance for redemption. After what they did with the economy in deficits and so what do they do."

" What we must protect our -- mark few good and act there no aren't you good so we're for them I'm going -- walked away from the one opportunity you have. And that's -- isn't about eating and rating did and take it because there are part of the political class what the people showing agree with Washington the Washington party. Democrats and Republicans that's what's that's what's happened now."

" I mean this -- but in any event at the end and that and different. Things out. On the impact on the congressional leaders -- it that the American public is so good that -- That that I think I mean there's definitely a problem and the Republican Party he has you know well."

" But that's not outside and look at it is we need a party and with the people the American people actually hear -- me. We want somebody from out here. We -- you know there is nobody -- the outside simply moving deck chairs around Washington it's -- Favorite example and look how many firm you have like -- even example the one Jack Quinn who was who was the person who was. Clinton's. Which chief counsel -- the -- in response from Marc Rich's pardon in business with. Ed Gillespie the former chairman of the of the RNC -- what more evidence in under about ten other firms like that -- say they're -- game folks that's the Mary Matalin and James Carville marriage model carried to of the -- Well people are saying I don't want any of -- There were -- same game here would we get up -- them. Well I -- It's -- right now and just attacking him and marginalize him and."

" Yeah so he's acting of people that support and that got red top -- again and that means they needed to what it."

" Ever -- we're doing businesses of my -- dude this is -- in -- with. -- the pharmaceuticals were in bed with the insurance companies were in bed with all the people -- Clinton or Clinton special interest now. We're -- we're giving them everything they want for money. And this is that this is the reckoning coming. Because -- the question is that Obama's got this problem. Because we have non starter from the beginning on the idea of the performs -- how do you do by -- reform by the -- To pretend that you could have reform and leave the trial lawyers out because that's too dangerous for the democratic constituency. What you people look that to lot of money in the party and say that's off the keeper. Then what went off -- about. I mean this is if you -- have serious reform had asked in the lack of all the kind of innovative things doctors who do not being there all of this. This is. People's frustration is right and you look at this bunch Brosnan the bills are. I've been turning off -- well. They need me in the end people. Come to something that they poll. Product manuals -- community because it's something. -- allocate some -- has something. If this -- enough hopefully when the question of I think the I think my personal belief is it -- movement born -- other than they might be able some. -- saving thing that's minor. But the real health care reform it's going into being once in General Motors and -- the stimulus in general. -- this is what I I certainly -- Well input to its interest -- as -- said but where's that coming boastful enough so now this root public ones. This is -- Artificially being created and and my -- this is genuinely with no support. Because all the people with the money on the other side in in in in you know the for the most part. And it's not working in all its advertising -- in the long. Most of not speaking with people count. You know they think they -- they -- AARP and what they think you're doing. They have a constituency. Of elderly people older America. And they are proving to be nothing but -- the Washington. Group. That basically is parading around pretending to be nonpartisan while running -- millions of bad dollars events supporting. The the the obamas won't -- here win. There's there's is that we don't buy it. Well you know what I wish I had the resources that they should probably -- get on the phone is it. Who would like it started new thing for senior citizens all that you -- AARP. That actually represents senior citizens and not in the I couldn't believe him on a Monday. That those leaders that have given partisan politicians between Democrat. That's not their business they have most powerful group privilege to be represented in -- they're -- there are there in -- it's all part of we're in the deal and what we get out of this and you know want and if I were remember what John none of the art he global capacity for your -- lowering the effective. Is that you know what time for somebody else to make a lot. Do very well for -- another group because there's going to be a lot of -- chances just like the -- That doctors are. In many cases because the inmate there's been wants to be responsible. And they have been. Well I don't quite understand how they got to where they've gotten endorsing that house bill if that is not brow beating view of some kind -- Then you know then I'm -- but. And doctors are furious. I isn't the only and it now. Do you -- in the country what whatever they are the people who do business behind closed doors in the rest of you folks out there. You know you -- just belong. Well no it's not gonna -- going -- America."

" And that spot in the -- thing for Obama is. People believe he was going to be different they really did and that is the -- and that is the doing that it. Bill that is -- danger he has a chance to pull out now but you better understand what the problem I agree -- camp in -- And getting any time there. They are at it that's created from a -- my -- great great."