'Deeply Un-American'

" what sort of government run health care system looks like he need not look any further than countries like Canada or Great Britain they already have in place so called universal health care and the results woman operating. And joining us now -- European member of parliament in studio for the first time that we usually have you."

" You know from from Britain have -- what time is that what when what you -- is there in the morning is -- that when it honestly thank you so much for being here. You don't you really have. Become quite a phenomenon among the conservative movement in this country. Because you you constantly frame the debate. Is America you are friend you are our brother -- our ally here and please don't go down this wrong wrote on health care. You feel that."

" Passionately about a -- because I'm a friend of this country and I wish it well and because as you say where an important ally ends what's bad for America is controversial and bound for the free world. And you know at a time when the American state is expanding so much because of the stimulus in the bailouts and rationalizations. The idea that in the middle level -- you could also afford this massive state takeover of health -- Yeah that has got to be bad news full of us if US citizens but also for the world economy more generally you know it it would look EU sent to me last time that I had a chance to talk to you that. United States was about ten years behind Great Britain in terms of of the of the -- things what -- project ten years down the road where is America going to be if in fact all these things are implemented bankrupt. And it disorder was that impoverished and we -- credit gone I mean. The way we are now if I -- know where where where maybe a couple years behind Zimbabwe can pick if you is that we have. I mean is it is we. Have that the health care system we have as a kind of rhetoric have. An era in version when the state was considered all powerful and the mine and when we -- rationing and when we -- ID -- have mass nationalization. And we're still stuck with it because you know once you once you get -- that it's almost impossible to get -- how amazing to me that a free people. You know -- didn't citizens of a country founded on the principle of independents independence for the such as another what is independence for the state. It should -- contemplating in peacetime -- themselves with a system like this which puts the power of life and death. Gonna say don't say this and one of the reasons I wanted to have you back for example I -- here. But it won't last time you were on it had been decided a week before. That you have a government rationing body your national health -- is what it's called I read the British papers all the time. And they had just determined that they -- not gonna provide lifesaving. Medication to women with advanced breast cancer. And I -- was at a death sentence in your answer was. Yeah I think of course and anything if you then try. And purchase your own treatment outside the national health service they will cut off -- treatment that you're getting from the NHS because they have this bias against. The private sector now. To be fast some of that there was such an outcry about of the some of that has not been been modified that you get -- a pretty good picture of the mentality that because it's not uncommon because we have people from Canada come to America because of long waits and inferior care we have people from Great Britain coming here for us for elective surgery and emergency surgery -- in the same thing with France -- the thing that. That you may find hard to believe is that you go along and you say I -- hip replacement Orion you know I need treatment of prostate cancer. And they will say thank you the -- is ever that we'll see you in October of next year or whatever and I think it's unbelievable things that people have been left. They -- in pain in positions where they can't work without losing and come. -- the back of the queue waiting for permission to get treatment as there's nothing you can do about it getting the American people have lost maybe. A certain. Part of their. Uniqueness and understanding of what it means to be free not I think I think the people of this country have really -- why they supported what I see I wonder whether they really do IE IV I mean elected legislature as well. And no politician can ever afford to forget what his constituents think about things that I I'm actually quite optimistic I think this you know this is a country. Founded in the principal all -- small government big individual -- who -- constrained power. And and free citizens and you know this this is the idea that this all whole countries could put. Into the power of the state bureaucracy decisions over what kind of medical treatment -- litre whether you can level five is deeply on America."

" It -- it I would agree with you but there is so large segment of the population. -- for whatever reason they have almost mentally been conditioned. To think that the government is the answer to all their problems they promise of Social Security social security and America's bankrupt Medicare in in America is bankrupt. At the stimulus but once -- passed promise that unemployment would go above 8% is now headed to double digits. There are people that put their faith in government which I think is the antithesis of the very founding principles like -- I'm not --"

" Back going to be them of course are people with and there are people of Goodwill who think that we should we should be honest about initial that the people who think that I'm not we can't write that just that they've they've they've they've heard from since there's no registration for -- okay but as -- it which -- and you know what -- all of the countries of Eastern -- try to -- it if you've gone back to the nineteen nations. The British health -- mobile was not as unique as it now is because it was -- by Czechoslovakia and east Germany and Poland. All of those countries have not dismantled it because -- of the democratization process was to get rid of all of the NHS type system. And replace it with something close. -- all or another puzzle with nerves and the idea that you want -- think tonight I'm gonna double his road it's toward the Cuban on North Korean system is just extraordinary."

" Well -- it's extraordinary and it's almost baffling to me and in the fact that we -- of the audience out there."

" Is doing their job they're going to those town hall meetings of those politicians -- confronting them there embarrassing them. But even with that happening Democrats are just you know blinders on they still want -- ram it down our throat. There was a real commitment to get this done on the democratic side the liberal side in this."

" I don't know if that's going to be the case I mean. Yeah I met some I've met some good since -- patriotic Americans in both parties and this is a democracy and people have to you know we -- you you have a really good. Open accountable system of government with pencils policies that open primaries while watching at a distance and a senior political star has has been rising quite a bit. Do you ever. Perhaps think of a day where you could be the head of the party that you could come to power and when dad introduced show on this program is prime minister and I can exclusively to got to ask capital. I'll tell you what did you know the last time that -- bulls -- to defeated that's your party leader in the US. --"