Freedom Watch: 8/5

" Yet it we're running out. Congressman -- we're joined now. By Daniel -- I think you know the wonderful British member of the European Parliament. Startled and educated world my speech that he gave war. Parliament. In the presence into the face. Chancellor Gordon Brown and Daniel had and welcome back to freedom watch. Thank you for having -- back on one of your favorite American heroes congressman Paul is here with us. Speaking from his congressional office and Texas because -- standing where he usually stands in the rotunda of the capitol building where does talk about that health care. You lived that and room to adulthood. The British national health service. Which you wish that free market like we have the United States and."

" wouldn't wish it on anybody we have a system -- The most salient facts of -- you get huge waiting lists you have -- survival rates. You would much from the full ill in the US and in the UK -- if you if you get. Concert -- heart disease you get stroke fight is on the chart design page you want going to be healthy and you pay him off. Why do we stick to the UK because there is such a huge vested interest are so many people now who depend on it. We have one point four million employees and inexpensive and I think it's the third biggest employer in the world off to the Chinese red army. And the Indian national railways and that means that an -- it's almost impossible to get the thing. Even. Most of those employees our administration -- Bureaucrats from the businesses and even the news that people in the system the people working for it. All ruthlessly exploited because this monopoly and mile and a very badly paid. But that is such a -- conservative blogs and in the sense of being resistant to change that it's it's something you almost can't for the ticket got rid of -- you know. Don't believe if you're watching this program don't think you can experiment with -- one of these things and and reverse -- it doesn't look out that's not happen."

" Congressman -- when when when you went to law school and even the generation afterwards it's like the brightest kids in the class. What you do when you went to medical swimmers -- for the last weekend doctors. You think we'll have a shortage of doctors you think they'll be an incentive. To enter the medical profession. If the federal government tells you how to practice medicine if the federal government operations medical care. And at the federal government limits what your income can be as a position under sentence centrally manage them planned. Healthcare system like they have a Great Britain."

" But I don't think that would be the first reaction I think the quality of the person -- in the medicine will go down. And that we will not that benefit the patient but eventually there will be a shortage. It away we already have shortages it's hard to get -- doctor. To work full time in a veteran's hospital -- government hospitals and it's very hard to. Get people who are getting Medicare right now even a member of my own -- say they're having trouble getting it the only position because. They just don't want to mess with bureaucracy of the Medicare system so no it it's moving in the wrong direction is going to be more difficult to find the doctors."

" Mr. Hannon do the best and the brightest become. Physicians and Great Britain. Is there a shortage of physicians as a consequence. Of either you work for the government or you or you get another job."

" Some people become -- just a political unit and I don't want to imply that because we have about system it doesn't contain good people. A lot of very generous very patriotic people become doctors even though -- working -- system that doesn't maximize that utility. Because they have a according to to help other people and -- that that's gonna happen and cool site that can -- it becomes an argument for the system because people come confident but basically I experience -- and -- that failed in this is condemning kinda. It -- just couldn't have been more professional. As as that is something exceptional rather than what you could expect. That as a as a -- simple statistical facts. We have many fewer -- he's ahead of population value in North America or indeed than -- in the insurance based systems. In continental Europe we have and immigration -- The UK to the US and as I understand -- asking from us because people want to be an assistant went -- but to my shoes."

" Congress who voted the American people whatever tolerate. The type of rationing. That would probably occur with the central planning of health -- was watching a piece by our mutual friend. John Stossel -- ABC. The other night actually John sent it over here I saw it before it was broadcast. That there are there are large sections in Canada. Where there are there is such a paucity of health care. That the town clerk actually has to pull names out of a hat. So that when the visiting position comes by once month -- name here she pulls out of the hat. Gets to see the doctor. And everybody else waits until the next month's lottery could you on the edge and anything like that happening under the American people accepting it."

" You know. It's hard to -- I think some -- others are gonna go to the underground economy."

" But this -- anger that we're experiencing right now and how upset the American people are. If we can paint and take that energy -- that the people you talk to recently in the large crowd. What we have news channel that energy to convince them that a free -- system it's quite capable taken their knee and there their need. Not only doing an adequate job but better than anything the government and its that that to -- is where the bottom line is what we have to decide but. -- if we institute a whole new system and the American people get really really angry and -- stuff about it you know in ten years from now than it much more difficult."

" It changed things that's why we do have a critical thing going on right now politically and hopefully -- sort it out and not make this thing so much worse."

" Congressman -- before -- let you go. -- Line up. And beaming -- here say things -- I think he's gonna make some national announcement on the Fox News Channel -- a couple of hours. I'm not sure what it is there anything you wanna say this -- that guy yeah to a position."

" I think I'm going to make sure definitely doing because he had everything good medical practice AMP the good positions. IE I don't tell him what to do his own man but whatever he's doing I'm sure reasonably good job."

" Congressman Paul thanks very much for joining us until next -- freedom watch -- that can happen is still with us I'm joined by doctor -- all with a worthless son in law. And an ophthalmologist and to join my my. Good friend and freedom watch her regular. Who's the president. Euro Pacific Capital. Mr. -- and back to you. The American. Government -- actually having some difficulty gators of course and expert on this you know a great deal about it selling behind. I mean it was able to borrow 86 billion in 2006. It's only been able to -- it's only been -- able to borrow. About eight or nine billion so far. Is the British government having trouble. Getting foreign countries that banks to loan it money like we are. Oh yes absolutely I mean all our recent bond sales have failed to bring in what was expected."

" activity -- now printing extra money and sending it to ourselves. We've kind of Zimbabwe in style inflation coming. For the reasons that we've run out of money it always happens when the -- in -- for long enough they they take over from conservative government has -- that the books in -- order. And they say great we -- no and the right to go on the spending spree. And for awhile it'll seems fantastic and then eventually you come down with a bomb which is where we -- Treasury -- operatives exhausted. And our country becoming a -- so we actually had an editorial in the Zimbabwean newspaper saying look at the economic mismanagement -- The -- is money that printing and and even the excuse that we have the west struggling with -- international sanctions on the law. You know I I didn't think there was any -- humiliation -- brown conflict -- my country but being achieved by Zimbabwe. Because that I economic mismanagement that really is a kind of and you know -- just say this this connects to the previous discussion we're having. About health -- he -- the main reason that person has run out of money. Is that for ten years as we were raising taxes from the productive as -- vehicle. In order to employ more and more people on the state -- you know. And the single biggest recipient of walls the national health service. And when ministers talked about investing in health they meant basically. Taking on more people in these administrative positions. You can't be repeated to wolf. That figure one point four million people at the NHS and the administrative staff outnumber the medical stuff and those of the ones who have been the big beneficiaries all. All of spending. And as a result of -- We've run out of money odd thing is the amazing thing health cat will not improve in consequence because simply spraying more money at something. When you're not doing it in in an organized and methodical way. Doesn't improve -- so this is the difference between a properly irrigated fields and a flash -- that actually washes away the -- And destroys the Tennessee one -- something of this. The government's massively increased the tons. Available to GPs and -- contracts suddenly they almost -- that salaries. Results will keep peace human beings like anyone LC and even -- with you. -- working such long hours. Because they could earn more money for working -- for us in other words the additional tax payers money pumped into the NHS. Wasn't -- useless it was actively home commitment hey let's good service to the consumers. And the patients and that I'm afraid is what happens when ministers -- you to micromanage and to put themselves into powers between the patient out. -- era practice. Practicing. Apologist. You're considering running it's it's. Like to use the health care. Perspective. Of the practitioner. Should the president's program. I think the problem is going to be numbers."

" Positions but we already seen you have seen the exodus from Canada that you talked about earlier -- the Canadian physicians are coming to Kentucky. In fact one Canadian position is going to be hosting a fundraiser for -- and I said well. You better do it soon because it looks like your system has followed you down to Kentucky. And that's where we are worried about it we've -- some of these reforms before. We have health care reform in 1994 in Kentucky. And they legislated what policies you could sell. We had 37 insurance companies in 35 of them left the -- left with two insurance companies. Because they told us if you were 75 year old widowed woman you've had a pregnancy coverage or everyone had it in vitro coverage or everyone had -- of this coverage. -- the disease diabetic coverage exactly indication having exactly and the decisions are no longer than the patient or the consumer of insurance what you wanna buy the government tells you what you can behind the choices are limited. And that's also part of the health care plan that the house has been talking about they talk about pages sixteen in nineteen. The only policies that will be settled. Will be those that are approved by committee. My father always says the more benign sounding the title the bill the more ominous the contents."

" It probably is that Peter -- Social Security broke Medicare broke Medicaid broke the post office broke Amtrak broke through the list goes on and on. What makes them think after less -- today and talk about the British model after listening to John Stossel talk about the Canadian model that they could."

" Managed health care in this country 300 million American arrogance and hubris that you can come up with that it is -- maybe stupidity. Would be another way network and and it's not just these programs -- The country's broke they bankrupted everybody. -- pursuing these programs and now you know what we keep on doing -- and we're gonna do it until the whole country whole system comes crashing down around us. Because the only reason they're getting away with it now. Is because the Japanese and Chinese and saudis and everybody else is -- But that's gonna come -- an -- that's coming is that look at the dollar again today in new low for the year it's not long before the world's -- a lot."

" he has any semblance of a free market. In Great Britain for health care whatsoever. And -- so it's accessible. Well once you go down this road of -- socialized health you tend to squeeze out the independent providers because of course. The non government provided can't compete. On that level playing field with the one that's -- by the -- that. So what happened in person is that we introduce. And national health system alongside what was at the time in the 1940s and a vigorous. Private. Market. But private insurance -- can -- down to the very fringe so. Fewer than 10% of the population can -- of private insurance because it's so expensive physical server isn't. Enough of a market that to have genuine competition. And and and low prices and basically what private insurance has become. He's -- for wealthy people to buy themselves a place the front -- acute. So they go along wanting hip operation until by the NHS it is going to be twelve months until it depicted in. So if they can afford it -- insurance they -- private and they will often have. The same procedure. In the same institution with the same session but they can get it the following week because they've they've thankful that way and having already -- taxes that it. For the national health profession and yet I I find it amazing -- on here. In the US here in the capital. Having to talk about this issue of free people whose country was founded in the name and calls of low taxes hand. The personal independence and national sovereignty you know I think I've I've been in Washington old and I mean I've been replicating that scene in mr. -- American grandparents and -- at the memorial -- the people in my. Political -- might be thinking back to what it was they Stifel. And what they wrote into the constitution that still governs this nation and it just it what would they be thinking now to see you having a revolution. For the -- all. Taxes and being part -- popular consent. -- and being passed in a way that are accountable to the government being made it possible to -- everything else -- If they could see this profusion of design isn't massive executive power in bureaucracies. Already having taken over some of the economy the -- that you're not proposing to take have a health care as well. You know if you could hear a clicking noise at ten years since the ghost of Jefferson right."

" During his stay obviously it would be -- in fact it probably would have immediately disarm its stock was that the British system. Because I'm sure the British would have treated us much better as a colony look how good they did with -- I think -- be much more prosperous today -- colony of Great Britain. I'm gonna tell you -- and if anything it was it was probably the case is -- unpopular thing to say. That it was probably the case that if you go back to the the original -- party. A similar majority in great person would have been sympathetic to the -- that the colonists as. People in North America it's difficult to measure that because person wasn't. Functioning parliamentary democracy it is time we had a very restricted franchise. Handled those who had the votes there was a majority coalition. But to the extent you can measure it through things like newspaper circulation. Petitions. It seems that the population of Christian. Walls sympathetic to the ends of the American patriots' in about the same proportion of the population remarkable site. Two thirds to three that the war where in favor of it before echo what are -- doing -- Washington."

" Well other than paying homage to the page -- is. -- I'm I'm writing a book about what's good about -- system and why we should. Not copy but I think -- his -- on revenue. Bring back the idea is that inspired you'll colonial villas and and -- import from -- system. The the precepts and the political. Techniques that have kept the government's mole and the people free. Open primaries discuss jurisdiction states rights low taxes the election public officials. The legislation controlling the executive all of these things which were originally possible British political philosophy -- been lost in our country. And that's why I'm so desperate -- can -- when I see them under threat in your country. Because I look at America is a British Patrick icy precision industries thriving here in a way that they continent not a country I think if they if they govern America than we really ought to."

" I've said -- and -- and -- national television. Far better understanding. Of human freedom and the American system. That almost everybody that works within a quarter mile radius of where your -- standing -- the picture on the maybe that's -- Mexican -- But thanks very much for your blessing you know telling you it was an English accent which makes it sound a lot smarter if that's a lot better I think your voice -- that one of art yeah thanks very much for joining us. Until thanks again if --"