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Published: Wed, 5 Aug 2009
Description: Gov. Richardson on significance of Bill Clinton's rescue mission to Pyongyang
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" What does president Clinton's presence in North Korea mean for future relations with a country right now on trying to somebody with experience negotiate with and the north Koreans is the governor of New Mexico. Bill Richardson good morning governor. Good morning I don't morning."
" I know at one point you offered yeah hug all murder I'll I'll do my best also Al Gore did the same that they said no. We want Bill Clinton why Bill Clinton. Well."
" For years and north Koreans have try to get Bill Clinton to come as president. It's a major coup for the north Koreans to get somebody of Clinton's stature they didn't get him as president but they get him as the next president. What Kim Jong Il the leader North Korea wanted to do to shore up his domestic political base. There's a succession issues there there's turmoil. Kim Jong Il wants to leave powered of one of his kids there seems to be. Quite a bit. Quite a bit turmoil that has probably cause -- north Koreans adopt some of the most hostile postures. Towards us in the last few years underground. Missile test. Nuclear detonations denunciations. All kinds of very hostile acts so. This does provide an opening possibly. For us in the north Koreans to at least start talking again but that's about it yet."
" You know it's it's -- governor that this is good for Kim -- ill and they repressive regime in North Korea. But tell us apart from the wonderful release of these two young journalists American journalist how it's good for America and is it. Well it is good for America first of all. This was the only way we're gonna get these two wonderful. Journalist with a great family it shows that America steps up. For our potential hostages and prisoners it's better as we do for our military. Second."
" Certainly what we get out of it. It is a lessening of tensions look this is a country -- nuclear weapons was almost a million. Men and women in uniform. We have American troops in South Korea close to 30000. They've got land mines there they've got sophisticated missiles we want to lessen tensions it makes sense for the international community. Just talk the north Koreans either through the six party nations. Like South Korea Japan Russia and China. I'm not spore was talking to him bilaterally. So that they don't do an unpredictable. It's coming it'll play all that that's stepping up for hostages. Increase the risk but more hostages being taken in the future is a good. Well this was an unfortunate situation. That two women were detained in North Korea. They had crossed the border apparently they also admitted they did it. Illegally. But the regard they were doing. Their journalistic work but they did admit that they came over legally so they gave this whole incident gave -- not Koreans. An opportunity to use it as a bargaining chip -- that's what's happened before. The very north Koreans are very good at getting bargaining chips like this to attract high level onboard but we get them back. Tensions are -- possibly talks resumed and so everybody wins and it's."
" All away sort of I mean I'm really understood the whole international story governor but I'm really interested in the domestic story here because you gotta know that President Obama does not wanna give center stage to former President Bill Clinton. Unless. There's a huge problem going on on Capitol Hill like the demise possibly of health care reform. Do you see that is the case here that he was more than welcome President Obama that is. To handle and hand off the torch to President Clinton to take center stage on this. Well."
" Look secretary of state Clinton was very involved in this so it is an administration's strategy even though. Clinton is going as a private citizen -- private humanitarian. But the problem is. President Obama had no choice we can't possibly send. An American diplomat or an American represented that there's -- north Koreans don't want to talk I don't know what I. It wasn't a good distraction for president Obama's health care. What yes it shows diplomacy. Mean. Effective getting hostages out possibly starting. They had dialogue we'll see what happens when President Clinton. Comes back. So yeah it's a plus for everybody I think. Obama looks good Clinton looks good yeah North Korea the leader you know he can get some chips out of this -- his own people that he can deliver. A former president at a time when there is internal turmoil in this country."
" Why I hope the current president calls a former president says thanks because Gibbs said yesterday that they had not spoken since March. But before you go. You -- apparently the president former President Clinton did say you know we're sorry if Hillary Clinton is that we're sorry to North Korea's. I thought we didn't negotiate with terrorists. Well no I I don't believe. This is what the north Koreans said but the White House has denied that happening now. The girls -- And then just women it's men and mrs. Clinton had in the past apologized to the north Koreans publicly for the women you know. Wonder and North Korea so wouldn't be a stretch to think that Bill Clinton might show up and say that we're sorry that that happen."
" Well now what's the word for secretary of state Clinton says she wanted to amnesty. She was asking for amnesty that implies recognition. That there was a violation of North Korean loss. But look the north Koreans always say well you know there was an apology they've done it wouldn't -- before. The fact is that President Clinton wasn't there to negotiate he was just there to secure the release. Of the two Americans but then the north Koreans still look let's be realistic when you sit out of them. They talk to you for hours -- their grievances. On nuclear issues so it's possible that you there was a dialogue but I. There was no apology offered by President Clinton I don't believe that aren't governor we thank you so much for joining us today aren't thank you you bet."
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