'Reform' Rhetoric

" On the road at once again the president in Shaker Heights Ohio. Hoping to sell his quote health insurance reform plan during a town -- just one hour that's a relatively new phrase he used it five times though. Last night."

" I'm also pledged that health insurance reform will not add toward deficit over the next decade and I mean. In the past eight years we saw the enactment of two tax cuts primarily for the wealthiest Americans. And Medicare prescription program. None of which were paid for. That's partly why -- inherited a one point three trillion dollar deficit."

" joining me now to talk about all of this including that new Frey is. And what it tells us about the changing definition of reform. As this bill continues to you know try to formulate a -- on Capitol Hill. Charlie hurt Washington bureau chief for the New York Post Peter Mary Gainey and former adviser to the Clinton gore campaign and the gore Lieberman campaign. And Chris Wilson GOP pollster. And the former executive director of the Texas a Republican Party -- to all of you. At Kelly you first what do you make of the fact that we're now hearing a lot about quote health insurance reform. As opposed to health care reform in these -- situations words can mean a lot."

" I think it's it's crucial and I think it you you're exactly right there's two focus on it because. I think what that White House is sort of undergoing is -- their realization that the notion. That they're gonna build a whole new massive federal entitlement program that is -- noted when you talk about health care reform. It's starting to do they realize that American voters really don't like that and it's a very scary thing. And so the White House very deftly -- last night. You're talking about this health insurance reform. Which sounds a lot if it doesn't sound like a big massive entitlement program. It's gonna wind up costing billions in and and tanking. You know the federal budget along with it the way Medicare Medicaid already do."

" Friday in on anybody who's ever struggled to get their health insurance company to cover something. Can relate to this -- but I wanna play a SoundBite from earlier in the week when we started to hear this kind of subtle shift. -- in the discussion about this let's listen this is is from Monday."

" Yet even as America's families have been better. By spiraling health care costs. Health insurance companies and their executives have reaped windfall profits from broken system."

" and here -- once again Peter Mary Gainey and you know used to be in the folks on Wall Street who were reaping those benefits we've heard about the oil folks reaping those benefits. And you had to to a great extent a lot of profits have been made in those areas. Are we now see sort of a new billion and a new focus in the health insurance companies and health insurance reform as opposed to. Insuring the uninsured."

" Yeah I think you're on -- then look at you you you alluded to earlier on anybody who's struggled. To get something cover or call their insurance company mean we talk about government bureaucracy try to do with your insurance company and trying to get something covered her question client. Yes I do think the analysis is correct the White House is definitely moving over to look at this thing to market this is a as a health insurance reform effort. I think that he's using the bully pulpit and I think these town hall meetings around the country are an effort to roll right out. Let me just say one other thing about through congress -- what's interesting is that you have a choice of people in the White House Rahm Emanuel and Jim Messina. Among them and cultural used to work with. Henry Waxman these guys are constant touch with the leadership on this and and I rest assured these conversations are taking place even if congress is an erratic session."

" Yet it well and I'm sure you're right about that and Chris Wilson let me bring you -- on this what does it mean you can -- in of the plant running at across here. Is what it means that we're now hearing health insurance reform is at a health care reform has a lot of people at -- the house is gonna change their lives. Are we seeing the White House presenting a slightly new version of what they will find acceptable in order to have the moment to sign that bill and say we did it."

" Now written to revisit the camp the presidential campaign -- is putting lipstick on a -- there's no difference what -- Obama's trying to do now. That was trying to do yesterday when I was trying to last week. The only difference exists in the way that their -- in that occurred because he's seen his favorability dropped nine points since June. If you support for this drop by almost half if the opposition wants is defined in the coffee economy kind go up to 70% in the US. And the most important aspect of this is -- the generic ballot. Pull even with Republicans and Democrats in some cases publicly leading for the first time since 1993. There's no difference in terms always offering what's different about is how I tried to -- he's trying to say that I."

" that -- they don't know how important here -- Anita back to Charlie the polls have been indicating that there's a softening in terms of the nation's support for this health care. Plan whatever you wanna college so my question is that you know is this the White House is way of presenting it. In a way Charlie that says you know what this isn't just about you know -- that down the street -- health insurance you're not quite sure why he -- doesn't have it. It's about you it's about all of box."

" Absolutely and -- of course it's what Barack Obama is sort of that the strength that's what he's best that is sort of appealing to people at that kind of level. I thought that Carl Cameron made a very good point in the last segment talking about the Democrats in congress. They think have the numbers they could get this done. But what I think terrifies them and -- prize in the White House is the fact that if they ram this through. They will -- it they run the table in this town. And they will own it it's not that they can't get it done it that people are afraid of having to pay the price the political price. Of having gotten it done."

" They're now on the financial services industry the car companies health care and any energy at once this gets stereo. At least that Betsy used to be what you know some what's in the plan here thank you very much gentlemen appear Mary Cheney and thanks to you. Chris Wilson and Charlie -- I was pleasure thanks -- The -- and we'll have."