Keeping Secrets

" I think that -- him. Is it behooves the committees to take. Whatever actions they believe are necessary to get more information on that subject as to whether. The I think the intelligence community was directed by the vice president. To create a program and intentionally withhold that information from congress."

" Speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi there on Monday talking about reports that the CIA had developed an anti terrorist proposal. To train assassination teams to take out al-Qaeda leaders. The plan initially had been hidden by -- hidden from members of congress it is alleged at the instruction of Vice President Cheney. The Wall Street Journal reported the plan on Monday after CIA director Leon Panetta informed congress laughs last month. The had scrapped the plan now bill this plan. It has been on and off again in the works since 2001. The net I found out about it and all of a sudden he not only cancels it but immediately it's it's in the press I mean is it any wonder that."

" people want this thing kept secret that's true but it wasn't quite immediately the timing is this. The Republicans were about to resurrect the controversy over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refusing the CIA of lying to her. Because they -- used the opportunity of the Intel authorization bill to resurrect this could this conversation. And to head that off. Democrats jumped up and said you know couple weeks ago Panetta came in the briefed us about the secret program and I think it was for from Cheney. So all the sudden the press and set up focusing on policy is now talking about the evil Dick Cheney so this is media manipulation music. I don't think it's well I think it's it's media militant manipulation of the media has plea has -- has swallowed hook line and sinker. Tonight."

" Yeah I disagree I think the media hasn't bought it not been struck by the fact that. From the Huffington Post on the left to Andrew McCarthy and the national review. Everybody's raising questions about what's the big deal here this was a planned not a program. The president signed an executive order it's been known since -- doesn't want what's going on here."

" I it was in the Washington Post on October 28 2001 which is six weeks after nine elevenths and I think most Americans right after 9/11 and frankly to this day. Would want to know there were out there trying to kill bin Laden and tower here -- and all the rest of I think that bill was touching -- that is the real story here. Is that the Democrats in the house led by the ultimate San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi. -- Hatred toward Dick Cheney and the intelligence community overall. And this is just a mindless attempted to throw bombs at them they'd love to put Dick Cheney in jail. And I'll settle for blowing up the American intelligence community."

" Let me try to disagree here -- I -- it was that organized I mean I do think that meant a lot of people Bob Baer who's a former Middle East CIA agent in time magazine. A lot of people have been sitting presidents have done this before and -- they get caught. You know we've had bungled attempts to you know blow up Fidel Castro and exploding cigars literally practically. I think Panetta you know what that this is a scenario Panetta finds out about it. There'd been some reports it was becoming more active he briefs congress. Yeah I I just I'm not sure I'd buy this this speculative scenario that it's all about Nancy Pelosi. Earnings Cheney pushed the CIA in his flu but I felt on intelligence and not -- that is."

" I didn't do anything devious Panetta was acting in good faith he just heard about it and they agreed that it was the Democrats who then -- that to one take attention away from Pelosi and two to give cover Eric Holder that -- that -- holder can move forward with his prosecution of bush -- you know crimes about tortured -- and so forth. And so the -- that write these stories about. All the tortured Eric Holder on the one -- he wants to follow law but on the other hand. You know President Obama wants to look forward not backward so this gives Obama the opportunity to have it both ways and we're gonna have one of these investigations mark my words."

" Judy is still shaking her head as she brought up this point earlier and let me read a quote from a former pentagon and White House official. Who wrote this week about how leaks happened when it comes to national security intelligence. The movie here's the line our national security and intelligence world has been turned so upside down on the depending upon me. Ideology and motivation of the leaker and the paper that reports the top secret information one can actually win the up Pulitzer prize that from Douglas MacKinnon riding in the politico on July 16 I mean is nothing sacred anymore -- when it comes to national security. "

" I think our sensitivity about national security. -- is really -- being reduced every day as the distance from 9/11 grounds you can see that more and more. There -- having fights over national security because. That memory of what used to be attacked his fate in the media thinks this is fair game they like these stories say Randall leaks. If it's a new ball game we're really in the post post 9/11 haren now."

" It's it's everybody's forgotten that at least some in the media have everybody's forgotten it's a lot like what happened in the mid seventies after Vietnam when the church committee in the -- committee were investigating the CIA. And all the stuff. The difference then is that the war was over the difference now is the war's going. -- we are in the process of shutting down our intelligence operations while arcade stalled on the loose and."

" And one of these days god forbid if there is another terrorist attack -- we -- wake up to headlines you know Sam Walton will limit what happened why did what and we know about the stuff you know I just -- I think this -- it in a very different way you know a lot of heads and the -- also instead."

" This didn't this hasn't worked usually when we tried this week tried this a lot of what was done or tried to be done in the name of national security. Actually has undermined our securities you can look at this. I don't agree that you know Dick Cheney gets -- you know she is getting a pass on this at all I -- not getting a pass on this all right we're gonna take a break we have lots of extras available to you on our website including."

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