Of Mice and Stimulus

" talk of a second stimulus bill begins to sweep through the halls of congress the wasteful details of stimulus bills passed are now coming back to haunt Democrats. And out of our headline tonight of mice and stimulus now during the debate over the first stimulus the president and democratic leaders including princess below -- They denied that any earmarks or pet projects would be included in the bill but now we know that is -- flat out lie it is not true in fact."

" One of the pet projects that Republicans criticize the most. Was funding for the protection of an endangered -- called the salt marsh harvest mouse that happens to by the way live in Nancy Pelosi district. -- the San Francisco speaker of long denied this money would be included in the bill and then several months ago. Our office said quote the speaker nor her staff had any involvement in this initiative this is yet another contrived partisan attack. But as minority leader John Boehner revealed at a press conference yesterday in Washington it turns out this was no partisan talking point."

" The Democrats -- Momo Momo were not gonna flown to Morocco fund this is not in the -- not gonna happen. Well guess what. Sixteen million dollars of the stimulus money. I was appropriated. To take care of the salt marsh harvest mouse."

" Sit -- the possibility of a second stimulus on the horizon and the debate over the president's trillion dollar health care plan looming. Can people of Washington like Nancy Pelosi be trusted."

" With spending your -- our money joining us now is Fox's contributor Karl Rove -- had a great -- the numbers don't add up. In The Wall Street Journal -- we cannot trust the numbers."

" And the information that has been sent our way now."

" You know look -- my point of the column was that when we were sold the stimulus bill by the Obama administration the president the vice president said. It would go to create jobs it would have an immediate effect. That if we did it we would see these kind of results and if we didn't do somethin' we would see things bad what we did. Congress did what they wanted they pass a bill 787. Billion dollars. And we're finding the money's not being spent quickly and it's not having the results that -- promised a fact. Unemployment today is 20% higher. -- unemployment rate is 20% higher than what the Obama administration said it would be if we did nothing. And that's a pretty that's spin off pretty far and now -- you're gonna make of the same kind of promises on health care."

" let them making these promises this is on the very week the Joe Biden -- we blow it we we misread the that they had nobody guessed right. But yet they told us -- was worst economy since the Great Depression not Tim Geithner said that the economy what it's going through is a healthy adjustment. As Americans go back to living within their means so I guess the lecture is deal -- that -- our high unemployment forget the promises we made."

" Yeah and you know what vice president Biden couldn't even to get that line out without being wrong I mean he said. He said we followed the blue chip consensus will would you blue chip consensus pointed to a do -- to a bigger -- And to worsen unemployment that the administration forecast so there -- follow the blue chips and they would have been focused on getting something done now. There would have had an impact on jobs now. Instead of -- what they did which was take every big spending program they could out of the shelf that had not been passed by previous congresses. And stuff -- bill of slap a label -- call stimulus remember this bill spends more money between September 30 2011. And September 30 of 200918. That it does in this fiscal year the problem is now. Then lets people wouldn't you -- tax cuts and safety net programs out that have an immediate impact now not doing what they did which is blow up the cost to government permanently. By putting a bunch of money out there that's going to be spent for the next ten years but don't."

" Those of us that read numbers understood that sort of like Laurel and Hardy or Abbott & Costello -- or you know you pick whatever Perry alike. It -- traffic and weather together all right it which is a great radio -- that your radio stations. If in fact it's it's sort of like spending and taxes go together. You -- if you gotta spend all that money taxes and I'm gonna necessarily follow here's the problem axle rod even acknowledges taxes may go up even on the middle class. Barack Obama Obama made a aide George W I'm sorry George Herbert Walker Bush like statement he said. Look under my plan no family making 250000 dollars is gonna see their income tax go up any form of tax increase payroll tax not any attacks. Is he on the verge of a breaking a major promise -- the American people."

" Well look he's already broken that promise -- when they pass the tobacco bill and I'm not an advocate for smoking but they -- to tobacco bill earlier this year. The raise the cost of tobacco free anybody who had who has had habit. In a lot of those people -- 250000 dollars or more a year they've already got attacks in place in if you look at their plans. Whether it is their plan for taxing soft drinks or. Fast food. You don't there's no way that you can walk up into a McDonald's and say. Oh here's my income tax return I made less than 250000 dollars last year so I don't need to pay your soft drink tax I mean please. Who do they think they're kidding. The purpose behind this I think is unfortunately. To make it's so expensive and to drive the deficit so hope so far out of reach that the only result is that people feel compelled either. Adjust themselves to attend a big tax increase or cutting spending and other places like for the military -- either way it's a bad waiter on the -- yeah."

" I I would agree but you know sort of the other thing -- I think Americans are beginning to pay attention I I mention this mouse out of San Francisco they're paying attention to that the polls show. More Americans -- blaming Obama for the bad economy rest -- Wall Street Journal. The country's on the wrong track Americans oppose the stimulus. The GOP leads on not only economic issues and national security issues. More Americans view themselves as conservative they think the Democrats are too liberal and independence now move towards Republicans what does it mean. For the Republican Party in twenty -- Well live."

" And -- you're right the conditions are getting better for Republicans and guess what. I think that last -- you touched on -- is even for further movement because what we've seen in the last couple months is. On issues like health care in the stimulus that independents have moved from a position of enormous support for the Obama initiatives. To either opposition Ford or to a more neutral position and I think that's a trend line that's likely to continue because I think a lot of those independent. Are being driven by these huge cost numbers -- slapped on these programs. When you start talking routinely about programs that have. Cost ten cost tags that are. Hundreds of billions or even trillion dollars that's starts to scare a lot of people and I what I mean what I think it means for 2010. Is if it causes a lot of good candidates perspective good candidates to say you know what next -- be -- year of opportunity if I won't -- Republican. If that happens then by next year I suspect we're likely to see a lot of very high quality candidates running -- races that are likely to be."

" We don't know I think Carl liberal and commonly think -- Desai I think now people are beginning to -- right. This these are their deficits you know this is their debt that they're creating for kids and grandkids."

" There's a report out today one congressman saying that he thinks unemployment Michigan could go as high as 20%. They promise -- wouldn't go above 8%. Not warm Buffett says -- 11% the GAO says that misappropriating funds stimulus funds and that it may not even spending the money right. It it seems to me I would think that the people that especially worked on the Hillary Clinton would have known better. Because it's -- reminds me a lot of 1993."

" Look they've they've made promises to us about the stimulus bill and not living up to those promises means they -- need to live with the people's reaction to it and people are reacting negatively. I don't know if you saw the USA today story and not exactly -- exit and conservative outlook. But the USA today story yesterday -- pointed out that I think it -- have voted for Obama are getting a lot more money than places that voted for McCain. That shows -- we'll have to see if that trend holds up. But if if that's true that if they are slim. That shows their motive is not creating jobs -- political influences are very very troubled by Karl -- always good to see you thank you for being with us on a busy Friday week."