Bizarre Barry

" Talk about his criminal prosecutor Rhonda Saunders is the author. Whisper of fear the true story of the prosecutors stocks that stalker shot -- put away this opposite celebs like Madonna. Anna Nicole Smith Steven Spielberg Gwyneth Paltrow find out will it help to have the stalker little weird."

" But Ron I thought you stop stalkers for a living don't you. I tried to because these are really evil people know what LT TE exhibit evil but look at. What's -- difference between say yes darker and so we just really like somebody. Okay you're talking about the difference between the fans and the fanatic yes what I call them. Had a -- somebody who buys tickets who makes a celebrity is celebrity. Who might have pictures all over their house of fanatic is someone who actually goes tracks down the celebrity. Tries to do harm to them or to their family. Makes threats and puts that person in fear for their safety at the safety of their family Ali yeah that's where they crossed the line let me ask that the mayor Barry thing because it sounds to me like the eight what they had a history. Andy we're splitting not going away. -- she did she manipulate the law a little bit byte by a million for stalking or was he legitimately shocking her. But you know we don't have enough facts yet about the case so we just know that he had been arrested for stalking. But stocking has more elements and just following right. -- and big greatest majority of stalking cases first of all of -- a domestic violence with there has been a relationship and and one of the other party wanna break it off. And the stalker wants to re gain that power or control all over the victim. So instead of sending flowers or candy or whatever they decide to play seven beer and have that fear bring that person back to them. And that again is where we have to step in because this could lead to serious injury could lead to rape that could lead to murder. So we take our stalking cases pretty seriously at least here in Los Angeles."

" I -- you do you have obviously have a lot of celebrities -- celebrities but the nature of being a celebrity attract a multitude of fans and of course one of them is going to be not."

" Which leads me to be a -- how does one."

" Deal with the stalker I -- you'd like probably every watch the movies the police are always liked what you can't do anything about it man until he actually does something."

" Actually copied it then yeah. Yeah absolutely -- that happens happens even nowadays in real life where. The police are there and the victim goes and they say -- come back when you get hurt. And that's not what are stalking laws are about I know because I helped to write the stocking on there in California. Have what we wanna do -- be able to get in. Make that arrest prosecute that stop her before he winds up hacking the victim to death a lot draping her or -- creating havoc with the victim. So stocking is a serious crime but we have to show not only that. He's following her or harassing her. But we also have to show that you stepped over that line and really wants that victim to be in fear for their safety but the safety of their family and that we can take some action alerts about. You were you when you involved John in the job at the norm in case the Steven Spielberg -- Wright was the thank you to get these guys are crazy. And this guy wanted to basically sodomized Steven Spielberg you're what -- basically about it now visiting. You really want how that -- so basically he said he said he wanted to rape Spielberg and and when he was asked well what would you have done if his wife had been there he said well. I would've tied her up and make her watch but he's not legally crazy and that was one of the issues because they're so smart you he did. He was watching the house and he actually found that was Spielberg -- somewhat although star maps that you pay seven dollars -- Sunset Boulevard which is some another issue yet but. He was watching the house and he saw that Spielberg's wife was driving a certain type of car. He went and rented the same kind of car at the same year the same model now. The same color because he thought that if he pulled up at the gate the guard wouldn't look inside would open the gate and just let him go onto the property. So this isn't crazy this -- premeditated. This is smart but the guy who had some issues you know even used to think he'd need to do did kind of a more -- Can you turn a stalker. Into a nonstarter. Because it seems to me that they've got some good there's a screw loose. So now how do how a person who has a stalker will always have to know until that person's dead. That they are safe and he'll never be safe until I saw there is gone right. That's true in fact my philosophy is the only good stalker is one that incarcerated are no longer around because as long as they're alive. There's still obsessed and is still focused so that's why we need to step in and do something about it and you know why they're never cured. Because in their minds their never doing anything wrong yet it's somebody else's fault it's the police are setting them on the victim did something to bring this on themselves. And there's just innocent victims of fate and I do not know one stalker who is taken responsibility. For what they've actually done. So all the counseling in the water isn't gonna do any good if they refuse to accept the fact that. Hey they've done something that has destroyed somebody else's life."

" All right Rhonda we gotta go I hope you come back. Very interesting and scary it's gotten I'm not a lot yeah I'm not I'm gonna stop stocky build. I changed my mind become like you are right side of -- so much coming."