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Published: Fri, 26 Jun 2009
Description: Rabbi Shmuley shares some private conversations with Jackson
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" It's a good thing well we've got rabbi. -- on rabbi there. I am -- state I think you line my a lot of time. Thinking quick quite close to that right."
" Clearly -- and yes."
" What -- you what is your reaction. To his death."
" to be honest. Is it numbing. Tragic. I won't -- shocking because I have been saying for years. That they would not long in coming unfortunately that it was. Likely so disconnected from anything healthy that deterioration -- rapid. That. Mean let's face it. There anything that well known in -- and in the public arena. Michael with the man who was extremely lonely and suffered from a lot of emotional. And stress and he he thought it was a physical morality and he always had sent them. Trained and sent the moment isn't -- treat them with subscription don't medications. Lisa became an -- McCain. Only come into your body before. Before. Tragedy is going to strike and really sad part is it would also portable people all the coming of people around and watched it. There was so -- how many people who just. -- part of the gravy train I'll never forget I was -- on the show on CNN when -- was arrested in 2000 story. -- station charges. Now that by Anderson Cooper. Do you fear that he'll go to realized that no no no I -- go to the grave and it. The people around -- from him helping know what's happening there letting happening book but the fact we have national TV and that. You're being inflation -- being alarmist. This could be in until avoided -- children right now are our hearts go out to family. His mother Katharine -- quote series -- couldn thing. But can you can be born her her her young son Michael who she adored but these three kids who don't have a mother and her life. I don't have a -- I know that we correct Richard Michael and collect -- The real person with real family connections it was real real real kids this is just absolutely agree."
" you call -- an affliction of the soul treated as a morality of the body. What Michael really want in line."
" I think you know Michael and I. Got -- conversations about life. And he wanted to be you know we should really take these and you should make it into a book. Get the for the fact from the don't ever -- and he was very insightful yet remember. Don't get that I've gained a lot with them simply because you're likely supercharged you know by the -- thirty get done what it put forth by people who do -- Billy having -- conversation. It was going to go into the book and eventually -- but about the public sector second child molestation charges. The one time he leaned over it would be quite an AI and said the following -- was a -- moment that. Actually -- military coming and -- outline view everything that I did the going to move my feet burning -- and holding my crack. It was all an effort to be -- all want to be look at that outlook."
" And I think it was like a heartbreaking public and I began to understand the tragedy like Michael fought the -- And coming up and you that you get attention for what you do perform at the current interest -- the audience."
" You get love for what you are your children under someone's daughter."
" Even your baby -- and connecting and -- want -- I think he felt deprived of that to a black and I'm not apportion blame here it plans aren't terrible pain in my -- about a -- and looking at the phenomenon of what he felt it was black and."
" And then and we can't let it thespian thing he -- something fun."
" And the -- that America is going off a cliff with fame and fortune we -- with the -- that destroyed our economy if you're an American Idol. "
" America's Got Talent and god knows how many celebrity creating shows the other don't want them."
" The most thing commitment of the entire war and look -- that -- before him -- But -- the most famous men and what without that before that down the road most famous woman in the -- oil. But about it. Then unfortunately not balanced by a solid spiritual grounding and with real family connected and with a -- relation to -- that balance. You begin to be -- player then you start believing."
" Old you know all the -- Stock picking criticism from your quote friends and god forbid you could really end up in a bad place."
" these things to do -- I mean you're here say this to less I have to imagine that you were saying that Michael why couldn't you get through."
" I think it -- in the face thing -- but the risk of our relationship until he really. Got the committee and it was that simple. C tired."
" and again this country mile -- and he was always very cordial like what sort of settlement to be -- development."
" And you don't want me but I could -- almost cringing towards the that he thought that might fight with cringe and."
" Because he can but not -- annual income and what to do."
" he would walk out of that room all when C and clearly you know he's going with the doctors come out all of these. And like let's say you know like they need to be shocked."
" Yeah. Reverend I'm going in on the rest of our guests here at want to talk about question you know let's four and a rabbi rabbi well. This is John and -- laughing doctor. Thumb it's very interest thing because. Which you bring up in terms of people. Being sick of France and telling you what you want to hear because. I as you well know the that is the dictum. How do you get someone -- you tell them what they want to hear and it's at Sul especially in the entertainment business. Where what you want to do -- trying to get. -- curry favor with the with the celebrity so you don't want -- album gee whiz you know wearing clothes and brought. Yeah going to be the person. And by the way I've always had a history of telling people straight. I giving it to them straight that's why I've gotten into trouble so I know exactly. What you have experienced byte by giving him -- honest insights. Unfortunately. The man -- cut you walk because if you did that."
" That I just like I I was. Let's say to you -- reminded of what Reverend Al Sharpton was saying yesterday about Michael only feeling connected to anything when he was on stage. And you know this this -- I can only comment on other people's comments because they didn't know the man. And it was. That's that -- I would be interested in asking you about is. What about the writing what about the music. I write an defying. Sometimes it's it's not easy. Two. Right certain things sometimes it's easier I find comfort in it I'm just wondering if there was any of that even. -- Michael through the music I mean other than what reverend Sharpton said about being on the stage was there any solace in his creativity."
" What little I don't agree with the assessment that he was only connected things went -- on the contrary to many years Michael it was very connected to god he was developed jehovah's witness. Unfortunately a lot of church but -- he was a missionary he went at -- but what a magazine. You're extremely connected with children he was very devoted to that -- my own argument anyway you've been exemplary father. I don't get -- gripping that thing when the baby that's inexcusable. Utterly outrageous. But by and large from what I would -- the very involved father I think he came alive on stage I think that again put -- before -- attention with what he promised -- onstage. You -- otherwise quite shy but. And other web development and you're -- after -- at -- is no question about. I hit counter passcode for the contemporaries and -- I think what of the Concord. Debt. You know that talent to a higher purpose I think that his eagle on the way that would -- any of -- And I think he struggled transcending that you know he had -- So how do you Trent how do you make to a -- electoral -- larger than yourself. And everyone treats you that because -- Michael you're the greatest electoral Lecavalier who -- the -- I think he really wrestled him down. And unfortunately I'm not sure -- hopefully you know I can think now it. And it can greatly and -- not my heart goes out hit central and now in a little mothers -- And and their life another father and I hope they're going to be okay and and the second -- goblet and I hope that you -- wolf forgive me. This is and -- we want a family vacation wanted to go welcome Michael companies can -- Having that terrible tragedy -- here have been very challenging and I mean kids. Older children remember Michael extremely well you know they proved it could how all the time and they were -- up yesterday and it's been very counting. You know -- remembering the good times so god got what you all think you're very very much for having me."
" Do you believe right now. -- really appreciate it we're really -- ago okay I'll have my bullet. I look forward to joining you in the -- kind of took them in the day."
" Absolutely we will have it when you're back in town that close with you we'll have him. But it -- thank you so much thank you so much."
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