Sanctuary City

" Welcome back a jobs program based in San Francisco California that wipes away. Any existing criminal records for those -- graduate -- after they have been convicted of drug dealing. But what are the risks well let's talk about that with Michael Cutler a former -- and as special agent and immigration attorney. Francisco. Hernandez he joins us today from Irving Texas guys who -- of Illinois. Good morning I -- let's talk a little bit about this program the -- AM San Francisco set this up where. After you been convicted you go through this jobs training program. But now it is spend and discovered a Francisco that apparently a number of illegal aliens went through the program they got a job training. And now because they went through the program. Bear criminal records in clearly they had one have been expunged. This is a bad idea isn't it."

" Well I mean I'm all for treatment -- treat anybody wants that as long as. They were not bumping irregulars you know -- USA citizens have any jobs. But you don't quite frankly my understanding of the of the program. Is it keeps them from getting a conviction and it's -- non drug dealers say it's for people who admit they have a a he had drug problem for small possession amount."

" Well I think no I I think you're wrong I think it does involve drug dealing and then it since they went through the program they'll Michael one and one of my problems with that is. You know that the DA of San Francisco says -- we didn't know that there were some illegal aliens and that we're going to tighten things. If they didn't know -- worry illegal aliens -- it why was one of the components of the treatment or in an English."

" Well look this is another example of don't ask don't tell the real bottom line here is -- if you're concerned about recidivism that's why I presume they've developed this program I don't what you need to do is deport people after they've done that jail taught. Sure that's the whole point if you expunge the -- you have somebody -- green -- That you can no longer deport them because they were involved -- drug traffic."

" In related crimes we have one case where this woman who almost got run down by these folks. They've committed several crimes right. And the whole point is that we need to treat criminal aliens as criminals that we need to do what makes both sides for the safety of our communities the safety of our citizens before we look at anything else right."

" Francisco in fact. The woman that he was just talking about who is run -- run over run down. -- one of these guys we've gone through that program which you found out that he'd gone through the program. And his record had been wiped clean -- does. Why wasn't that -- deported he was income country illegally he -- are convicted of a felony. -- just ran me down he should be back in Mexico. If I didn't ask you skulls are called him. That has absolutely nothing to do with the program if -- as a criminal guy as a criminal. If he got reporting is gonna come back anyway so yeah W that is last in the program for the actions of one person did something. That was illegal and whether he went to a programmer not a -- run over anyway at that have risen to -- and I wouldn't."

" I'm not hurt if he would -- Good morning I looked at the looked up I help tell the model right look you're a criminal alien to get the -- you're facing a maximum of what he is in jail for reentry. You know I. That's good this all right so now appoint this to say well they're going to come back anyway that's likely to give them driver's licenses anyway we'll get to give them amnesty anyway. -- tired of the weren't the only way to put. When you're gonna. Yeah at one point. We have one opportunity to make a first impression of the first was that aliens generally count pretty immigration laws and right now we have the world. Good she'd come to America violate our laws violate our borders with the expectation of being rewarded that has stopped. What where he has picked it Symbian -- where is the reward for what we're hearing about -- really. -- award we're hearing about the government the San Francisco blocking hiatus from having access to their criminal histories. There its budget convictions which would cause them to become an affordable as well."

" Cannot block San Francisco cannot block that and immigration service really can't if they don't go to armament. They can come in and get it if they want it is the boy everybody in the jails now on the but Frank -- and at some -- records if expunged the record that -- have actually or whether it's biased and ultimately not they're not it's look at the article again Francisco that's what they'd go. I'm just fighting which is an -- the -- That is a misnomer from the article it is not it finds in the federal government has access to all those records. Whether or not San Francisco you're telling me that municipality can -- the federal government. And that at department Homeland -- doing yes that's exactly what Sanctuary Cities -- absolutely could not. I'm going -- the fact that your daughter of god -- it Francisco my god let Francisco didn't go landing check the jails and take everybody right now I'm I'm gonna get criminal offense and I. We're gonna have to generate their river at Cisco I've I've got let's say that Michael is absolutely right according to our news information. That you go through the program your record is wiped clean I'm gonna -- the benefits that program allegedly -- And you learn English so you can get a job in take a job away from somebody else in California but are -- nothing Francisco in the correct all right you disagree. -- email -- friends only three correctly. But your point of -- We haven't I have the -- sun apps like Francisco and Mike we thank you very much for listening to that article on his side it has the facts wrong okay you need to read it again -- could have the right to be -- my -- that the."