Sanctuary City

" Welcome back a jobs program based in San Francisco California that wipes away. Any existing criminal records for those who graduate comment after they have been convicted of drug dealing. But what are the risks well let's talk about that with Michael Cutler a former high and as special agent an immigration attorney. Francisco. Hernandez who joins us today from Irving Texas guys -- of Illinois. Good morning February of this let's talk a little bit about this program the idea of San Francisco set this up where. After you been convicted you go through this jobs training program. But now it is spend and discovered a Francisco that apparently a number of illegal aliens went through the program they got a job training. And now because they went through the program. Bear criminal records in clearly they had one had been expunged. This is a bad idea isn't it."

" Well I mean I'm all for treatment -- anybody wants that as long as. They were not bumping irregulars you know -- USA citizens have any jobs. But you don't quite frankly my understanding of the of the program. Is it keeps them from getting a conviction and it's Ford non drug dealers say it's for people who admit they have a -- drug problem for small possession amount."

" Well I think no I I think you're wrong I think it does involve drug dealing and then it since they went through the program they'll Michael one and one of my problems with that is. You know that the DA had sent the Cisco says that we didn't know that there were some illegal aliens and that we're going to tighten things. If they didn't know they worry illegal aliens and it why was one of the components of the treatment and an English."

" Well look this is another example of don't ask don't tell the real bottom line here is that's if you concerned about recidivism and that's why I presume they develop this program I don't what you need to do is deport people after they've done that jail talk. Sure that's the whole point if you expunge the record you have somebody -- green -- That you can no longer deport them because they were involved -- drug traffic."

" In related crimes we have one case what this woman who almost got run down by these folks. They've committed several crimes right. And the whole point is that we need to treat criminal aliens as criminals that we need to do what makes both sides for the safety of our communities the safety of our citizens before we look at anything else right."

" And Francisco in fact. The woman that he was just talking about who was run -- run over run down. -- one of these guys we've gone through that program which she found out that he'd gone through the program. And his record had been wiped clean she does. Why wasn't that -- deported he was income country illegally he -- are convicted of a felony. And just ran me down he should be back in Mexico. If I didn't ask you skulls are called him. That has absolutely nothing to do with the program if -- as a criminal as a criminal. If he got reporting is going to come back anyway what a -- W that is last in the program for the actions of one person did something. That was illegal and whether he went to programmer not a -- run over anyway -- that have risen to go up and I wouldn't."

" No word if anyone -- Good morning it looked -- looked up I help tell the model right look you're a criminal alien to get deported you're facing a maximum of what he is in jail for reentry. You know I. -- this all right so -- appoint this to say well they're going to come back anyway that's likely to give them driver's licenses anyway we'll get to give them amnesty anyway. -- tired of the weren't the only way to put. When you -- Yeah at one point. We have one opportunity to make a first impression of the first was that aliens generally account for the immigration laws and right that we have the world. Good she'd come to America violate our laws violate our borders with the expectation of being rewarded that has stopped. What where he has picked it Symbian -- where's the reward for what we're hearing about as they -- really. -- award we're hearing about the government the San Francisco blocking hiatus from having access to their criminal histories. There its budget convictions which would cause them to become an affordable as well."

" Cannot block San Francisco cannot block that -- immigration service really -- if they don't go to armament. They can come in and get it if they want it is the boy everybody in the jails now the but -- the they have some good news the records if expunged the record that they won't have X they are -- it's -- are currently not they're not -- look at the article -- Francisco that's what -- go -- I'm just fighting which is that a lot of the -- That is a misnomer from the article it is not -- in the federal government has access to all those records. Whether or not San Francisco you're telling me to municipality can -- the federal government. And that at Department of Homeland Security choice in doing guess that's exactly what Sanctuary Cities -- Dominican. Delegate fact that any unilateral definite at this Francisco -- Francisco didn't go landing check the jails and take everybody right now -- going to get criminal offense and I. We're going to have to generate their river at Cisco I've I've got let's say that Michael is absolutely right according to our news information. That you go through the program your record is wiped clean and -- what are the benefits that program allegedly and and you learn English so you can get a job in take a job away from somebody else in California but -- nothing Francisco in the correct all right you disagree. -- email us friends only three correctly. Fletcher point of -- We have that I have the fact someone sent -- Francisco and Mike we thank you very much for listening to that article on his side that has the facts wrong OK you need to read it again Ari could have the right to be wrong."