After the Show Show: 6/17

" Special report on line I'm Bret -- thanks for joining and then of course will be reading your comments and questions reacting to them throughout this show. Also want your comments on the new look the graphics the music I want some constructive criticism what's the deal tonight's panel. Bill Sammon Fox News Washington managing editor and of course you remember Steve Hayes senior writer for the weekly standard Nina Easton Washington bureau chief for fortune magazine. An old -- syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer we want to continue to do the discussion right away about this media store in the relationship. Between the media mainstream media and present Obama. Bill you're just joining the fray here what we didn't get on the show during the panel was ABC is going to be broadcasting this healthcare special from inside the White House they are also doing. The nightly newscast -- from the blue room this follows Brian Williams doing his newscast from inside the state. A dining room. Is there a problem with this I."

" Think so having covered the White House for ten years under both President Clinton and President Bush. I think there's something that makes me queasy about for broadcasting your evening news show from the blue room or the state dining room it's one -- to be on Pebble Beach which is sort of neutral territory. By the north lawn and all the reporters -- out -- but when you're gonna guy's house. And you're broadcasting -- supposedly healthy robust possibly adversarial critique of the guys administration I think. It just sends the wrong message and -- something Brett. You know having been a White House correspondent for a lot of years I think would be embarrassed. By the level of adulation that this press corps is heaping on this president not just the White House press corps. But the larger Washington press corps. I think you know I would. The worst thing that you could say about a reporter when I was there wouldn't weather was covering Clinton -- bush was that you were too -- and somebody if you are too hard and somebody that was okay if I had bush angry at your Clinton angry at me. I always felt vaguely that I was sort of doing my job. But I would be embarrassed and I think even these reporters he's liberal reporters in their heart of hearts there is a kernel of journalistic integrity in there somewhere. And that is feeling embarrassment over the way they are treating this president and I think eventually the -- is going to turn in these journalists are gonna say you know let's say ideology aside we gotta do what we're what we're supposed to do here and and hold the -- to the --"

" You know I've received a lot of email saying that that I'm bringing this up and and I did -- special on George W. Bush. And did the ins and outs for the documentary they want our special from inside the White House. Well it's true it was a special it was about his final days in office and in that we were at times critical less tough questions. But we didn't do our nightly newscast from inside the White House and perhaps that's the difference that we -- trying to make brutally tough."

" Questions in that interview and if that's why I made the distinction of the nightly news broadcast if you're doing a tour you're you know you're so we showing your on the house you want to broadcast that to the public that's fun. But to do your nightly news broadcast from inside the White House. There's just something that makes me and."

" And easy like okay Brad and says I'll see -- that ABC isn't accepting ads from organizations with dissenting views now ABC says there are not taking any advocacy ads put a lot of healthcare firms and insurance companies wanted to purchase."

" I'm on the on the network during that special you know what you -- about all this. Well one thing and again I agree that I do you think the media is very much -- in the tank for Obama I think there's a glamour equality and I think the Charles writes that there's this -- quality that sells magazines and you know time magazine my sister publication has put a month I don't know how many times. If it. There's there's that aspect to it but in defense of the media. Forgotten that can be the only one here to offer any defense so I'm afraid -- yeah. There's another dynamic at work here and that's that this administration. It's putting out so many use sweeping programs day after day after day I'm only one here for fortune magazine I mean it's like a tsunami waves -- coming constantly. For an eighty your and you have a media which is facing layoffs and rounds and rounds of -- we all know this is in the last six months. A lot of our friends have been laid off. See facing a lot of kids a lot of organizations don't how Washington bureaus anymore. So you're facing the smaller -- you know useless do you think he even if they're I think the New York Times is going to be your standard -- liberal publication. There used to be a lot more other publications that -- provided -- competing voice. And you have left of that and we have left of that and you've got the speed at which. He is rolling stuff out big stuff and you know when he said he said in the interview with John Harwood and in the press has been generally positive. And that's because I'm not trying to hide the ball. Well in some respects this field which is it health care reform for example the speed of which are pushing all that stuff out. And limiting debate on it that's hiding the ball it's like a fire -- stream from a fire him so I'm I'm I'm we're."

" It's typical yes he is hiding the ball I mean where they continue to act as we can see announcement this is one -- for I think that the White House press corps has really fallen down. There are isn't he he himself made the standard the most transparent administration in history. He is not close to that there are many things that people have requested from the White House that they that we haven't gotten. We had to fight my magazine weekly standard had to fight for five months before we got the report on Guantanamo recidivism. It was to have been posted on February 2 on -- department of defense's web site that never happens despite they're telling us that it wouldn't. And we waited and waited and waited and pounded the White House and -- the Pentagon to try to get this information they didn't put it out there later put it out after it was leaked by somebody. Who like its findings. Not the White House view of things it was leaked and then they released at the same is true with these Dick Cheney documents where are these documents."

" I don't agree with me and I wouldn't judge to bias in the volume or the amount of coverage because this guy. It's being as active as FDR we've never had such an active. The first -- here because we've never been. In multiple live crises without a president who believes that the government in Washington ought to be at least if not in control -- directing everything so it fit -- The amount of coverage I think is about right -- of course it's the slant from the coverage. And that's what makes it very unique that he gets coverage that is really ambulatory. You know this is the same -- that -- true year after year in the later years of the Bush Administration. He insisted that the highest form of patriotism is dissent. And that the purpose of the prices to speak truth to power these guys are on their needs and that's what's so embarrassing."

" Pete says will the sham wow guy -- the moderator for ABC's town hall in commercial. No that's actually fairly kids -- ABC has said that they are going to control the editorial content and they're going to control who is asking the questions. In this town hall meeting and they are not taking direction from the White House."

" So they're bringing in that guy who was a doctor who's on their staff Tim somebody her father who who's been an ABC sort of in house doctor for many years. Who is on record as far back as Hillary care. As saying in fact during an interview with Hillary Clinton when she was First Lady. He says something along the lines of you know many doctors believe funerals at -- health -- and -- my vote to that because I believe in it too so these are the kinds of people they're bringing in but let me just say this. If you're right that the quality is overwhelming quantity of coverage is just so much stuff come by the White House you have to cover you're also right that. Newsrooms have been decimated there aren't enough bodies to cover. But there I have seen garden variety media bias and it's pervasive all by itself and it's a really bad thing all by itself this is something. Very different this is exponentially. Different. Then hey let's give the Democrat a liberal Democrat about the past here this is an advocacy and commitment and passion. There vested in this guy and I haven't been able to find anybody who could really actually doesn't -- John Harwood -- a few tough questions in that interview including the question about the press cup actually the fact that a New York Times reporter and CNBC anchor which is John. Basically Obama hate you've got all this press coverage that so favorable that it might not even be good for the country because that was really you know hold your feet to the fire. For him to ask that question. Was I think very courageous and a good good strong question and secondly I thought it was that maybe the first sign that the warm might turn here because again. Here's a guy thing well -- better ask an adversarial question like journalists are supposed to be. They're getting embarrassed and they're gonna start doing their duty sooner later."

" But the guy that does our. Effort at the White House and there's a very well and ask some very tough questions senior White House correspondent Major Garrett is joining us now. I know you've been listening to this affinity for a little bit. Any thoughts from Pebble Beach in neutral territory on. On the with your colleagues in the White House briefing. I'll have this thought about the president. One of his books is called the audacity of hope that it audacity has been redefined at the presidential level where the president expects. His word positive coverage. I think it's outrageous that makes me boil with anger. That a White House president that a president's country would save the media's obligation is covered me positively. Let's look at for the country like a pretty White House. And it -- isn't yet and we talked about it on the phone and we won't talk about all the things were said about. Yeah I mean if it's our job to report it it's not our job to say one way or another positively or negatively Charles. You want to win here yeah I'd like to ask the major how does that. Sort of expectation. Coverage -- manifest itself for TU and a daily basis. Well I've been covering this."

" White House from day one I covered this campaign for the better part of fourteen months. I'm fair aggressive. And curious. As every journalist ought to be and they know that. And they know that I'm not going to do them wrong I'm not gonna play gotcha but I'm not going to let them off the hook. And that's right do every day as they did during the campaign is what I do now. What I resents. And what really gets under my skin is I thought during the campaign when this was a cheap applause line. Fox is always on fox is always on me all there's the applause from the -- okay -- that came about once every week. I didn't think that a president who often tells us he pays no attention to cable chatter. What selectively isolate this network and say the reasoning doesn't like it is because you can't find anything positive about him on it."

" How's that he's -- said that a lot is used fox -- Right now that I thought he was wearing a terrific student in an interview yesterday."

" I wish I attitude like that -- And you mentioned the audacity of hope. From his book audacity of hope he writes quote. I was the beneficiary of unusually and that times on deservedly positive press coverage. I've watched the press cast manulife they can be hard to live up to now this obviously was when he was Senator Obama but that was. Some symmetry seeing points that he made in that book now he's saying something very --"

" Do you name it George W. Bush to be saying the same thing when he writes his memoirs I don't think of him with -- Let's not forget that any fairness I -- Republicans and George Bush you messing up near times all the time I mean it it let's let's let's be fair and -- balanced and I wanted to ask is -- southern boy. Yeah yeah. -- it doesn't affect your data day it just a follow up on Charles does that affect -- your access does it didn't do you get singled out in any way being from."

" No there had been -- and a great number of off the record briefings. There was a dinner last I would Treasury Secretary -- the second I've attended since this White House came to power. Every single significant. Briefing with a -- and all the networks I've been there. I mean we are at the table for those things nothing is ever really come back to me personally -- you -- weren't called on enough press conference that was that was direct retribution. For our broadcast network not carrying that press conference they were on ambiguous about."

" That which other networks then said was a good financial move by Fox Network anyway Stephen from Alabama says this -- is so unfair is what I say less important than anyone else. No Stephen coupon Patrick will read it. Major rich says major -- on the bad guy list confused in Chicago says I wonder what the administration will pull majors press -- listen that's not what we're all saying here now we're we're saying that it is interest in the way that this media coverage has developed -- Let's turn the corner."

" what Mike if they've dredged up in one thing -- real quick. People can take it take a look at the Internet tonight or tomorrow morning's Wall Street Journal tomorrow morning's New York Times both we'll have polling data. That shows the country is losing confidence at least no small measure. But the president's economic policies as intervention the auto industry and the deficit and also showing a bit of a -- Being his popularity overall and some of the issues that are now being being percolating in the polls and working against this White House the very kinds of issues this network has identified. Been curious about and scrutinize this administration's record on long before others have I'll put that record up against anyone in this business."

" Yeah I should point out and Jacki points out on the on the the comments here that Jake Tapper is a very good reporter yeah obviously as with ABC and we assume he'll be a part of that special. Inside the White House so. He can he can ask you a question if you can have. Kerry touched classmates it's its own self okay let's turn to the financial regulations major. We he had the story during the show. What's so that you didn't do the end. About how this is all developing and really what if there's any major push back of these new rules of the -- road for financial. Regulation the big."

" Story here is going to be will congress allow the Federal Reserve to take such a broad regulatory look at and if in fact it goes along with the administration regulatory control over the US economy is -- financial institutions are concerned. And will it allow this other super Missouri council that's very nebulous right now but it would be run by the Treasury Secretary. To oversee. What the Federal Reserve is going to do as it overlooks the entire. Financial institutions of this country that's a huge issue I asked Barney Frank and Chris Dodd here after the White House event you understand how this council would work. No we've got no clue how -- war are you buying into it not yet we need to look at the details there was a dinner last night. As I mention what Treasury Secretary Geithner are brought the suburbs of how this council work. Who would leave it up and others do a hand gesture here he went like this. Hope we aren't there. Me you know the Treasury Secretary is going to have a say in this council that's going to oversee how the Federal Reserve will then oversee the broad. Aspects of the US economy. That's brand new it's never been tried before. And congress is going to have a decided that's the proper. Structure for the Federal Reserve and his other regulatory body this council the would have the Fed the FDIC the Securities and Exchange Commission -- well. Is also going to have a kind of powers that the administration is seeking -- a lot of these other issues I think that's pretty broad consensus that's going to be the big fight William."

" In North Carolina says this is my first there watching in this format I love that William welcome Charles you inside. I mean that what what we're hearing about this council led by the Treasury Secretary. Would seem to suggest that it's a threat to the independence of the fans. It would imply that the Fed is now going to be under. Council led by a political appointee now I'm not sure how the details of work. I'm not -- that you don't need the details have been spelled out but if you're abroad are you reading this and your. Economy is sort of assumes the stability of the American dollar and the independence of the Fed as a guarantor of that. Indeed we know a lot of countries will -- what you don't have an independent reserve bank. They end up in hyper inflation and all kinds of other troubles I wonder if that should be explained in a way to make people not panic. At Milosevic because that would be a huge change in how we run our economy pain and this is here. An area that okay."

" Ice pack ice can add an aside to all this say this kind of interesting name released just 85 page white paper which can have time period all of yet. That but part of it was a diagnosis of what happened and so this is all built on their diagnosis of what happens. And you know I think most of us would agree that there's lots of villains in this plot there's the people who have bought homes they couldn't afford there's the banks to lend them money. There's that accompanies that on securitize those -- there's -- Wall Street firms that came up with their exotic had plans to ensure those lines and on and on and on. But I'm a big piece said that is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And and the role that they played and Nash and there was no mention of that and the diagnosis of us it was all about the failure of regulation there was never die that there is nothing that says. Well Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac encouraged. This sub prime market. And by buying up those loans they -- the major players in the housing market. They're supported by people like Barney Frank and George Bush tried to raise them and not very hard I might add that tried to rein in those on institutions. And they -- a big factor in all of us so it's interesting you know I'm not sure it's been. Again there's a place for that necessarily any regulatory reform. Well plan right now it's about under conservative or ship. But I think you should at least mention it when you die you."

" says Robin also spot on and -- because that was such a key reason for the meltdown that ensued. Was that Republicans like George Bush we're trying to implement regulations on Fannie and Freddie. We're blocked by the likes of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. And now the irony is that one of the ways to sell this new regulatory regime is to say. What will be able to put in these regulations that'll prevent bad loans going to people who can't afford to buy homes. You know I came in and then they're not only are they using that but they're using that as a pretext arguably. To implement a much broader and more sweeping regime of regulations that go far beyond that particular problem. In a way that -- in largest government. Just like we've seen you know the Ted nationalizing the banks that take over the car companies you know do these efforts -- true raid and got executive compensation whether. That's companies that took TARP money may -- companies that didn't take our money we should takes at look at their compensation I mean it is staggering to see the level of government intrusion. That is coming from this administration never waste a good crisis."

" And venture I hate to interrupt I want to get a couple more topics in before we let you go major anything that. They see on the horizon -- this week that we didn't talk about."

" Well health care I mean look it's beginning to fall apart on Capitol Hill that Congressional Budget Office numbers are staggering Democrats are reeling at the cost implications of health care. The finance committee delayed until after the fourth of July recess a committee mark up which means. Delaying this and in all likelihood past August recess which means pushing health -- deep into the fall. The White House is losing control this message and losing control the numbers and Democrats in the house and senator beginning to recoil from this issue I think that's a huge thing. One thing I asked the briefing today I'm right about on the website later today. The president said over and over if you like -- you had you get to keep it like you're doctor like your health plans I said Robert Gibbs today with the White House be open to. Putting in legislative language in what ever bill emerges that says congress will track that. And will revisit the legislation if in fact people as a Congressional Budget Office sort of predicted begin to lose their health plans and lose their doctor. Involuntarily. He said the White House would be open to it. I think that's an interesting question I'm -- I got an answer."

" Yeah real quickly before I get to you and we didn't plan this major -- very good on the spot healthcare is the issue we want to talk to Molly Henneberg up on Capitol Hill it has been getting pretty heated up there Malik. Today was an interesting mark up of senator Kennedy's legislation. We talked about that on the show I think -- get them."

" Yes I'm so glad I have this opportunity because there it's just so interesting to hear senators their takes on exactly the same thing for example the government run. Public insurance plan. You have a Republican senate Republican senators and then I love this in the -- illustration by Lamar Alexander Republican from Tennessee. Crew who is opposed to the government run public insurance plan because he says -- crowd out private insurance and he gave this as sort of mental picture visual -- that if you put an elephant in the room with a bunch of mice what's gonna happen the -- gonna -- the -- increasing you have no -- left it -- you have the -- that's that's what's going to happen with. Wouldn't that bad public insurance plan is gonna it's gonna be the elephant in the room with all these private insurance companies and it's going to crowd the mountain so pretty soon in his estimation you're gonna have. Everybody on the public insurance plan then you have on the other side -- Democrats such as senator Jack -- he said. Listen we have got to have a public insurance plan that's an argument I have heard previously. A public insurance plan as a check on private insurance to keep private insurance in line with what people and families can afford. He didn't use an illustration quite like elephant -- nice but we did make an interesting point that way."

" Yeah comment from the -- Charlotte this whole health care thing frightens me Nina. It frightens a lot of people because of the overall cost which we don't really know different see it with overall cost and the prospect of losing your health care and the prospect of losing choice and you know Molly said it would it would she said. Pointed -- was Jack -- I guess you said you know it it'll this public plan will put a check on private. Plans and Obama has said that as well you want to say well okay so who's going to put attack on the public plan. There's there's actually a terrific New Yorker article that making the rounds in which a doctor went to a small town in Texas where that health care costs for the highest. And it was because of over testing and over diagnosed as president mentioned that. That is an -- and that it was it was big it was mostly in government run programs there was there's Medicare and it was it wasn't that private -- not depriving companies don't do it as well but it wasn't. It was a it was a government and government program that did it tell I think I think that's frightening people actually ties back there really quickly TV com. The media bias because I think. In the health care plan is a perfect example of that where everybody in the media service soon there's any health care reform everybody supported it championed it. And eat it it just shouldn't matter what the details were going to be and now you're seeing as I think at some of these speed bumps are put in the way the CBO numbers for example. Might be conservative Democrats becoming more vocal about their nervousness about it that that you're seeing more legs in the media for criticism about it I do think you're gonna see more -- criticism -- the Obama administration at least on non health -- and."

" There's -- point remain a media class and health care that I think one of the biggest buy -- in didn't sort of generally speaking beyond just this president. Is the -- do something biased in that of the people who are in Washington for a walk and always want the government to do something it's never an option to do nothing. And I think is that he -- that feeds -- that you have to do something we have to be seen as doing something so that's a big a big points in the second point I'd make is when the president talked about. He you know he gives these assurances that never losing your doctor. He he may or may not end up. Being right about that -- majors question was what was a very good one. But but what he doesn't say is it's entirely possible that you keep -- in doctor. But you're going to be paying five times more to go to the same doctrine do the same things that you're doing today if you have this public option crowding out. The the the private companies and and the third point I'd make tamales report is. Aren't elephants afraid of mice --"

" I'm very Tennessee statement there really want to go run a quick -- about it you the second Charles. Doug tell me for everybody talked everybody here from the control room Doug is our producer. Let's finish out of control room all the great people inside there tell me what this out by this. Now it's just one of the videos that we got in right. --"

" I think did I care. To pay for surgery. -- back which needs to rebound Malaysia's prime institute. They refuse to pay for. And I think just because. The 30000 dollar prize today but hey this is normally. You know it's also take care of its own soldiers and their spouses. And how much else. And lastly. I've been to the local ten these guys use the newspaper at Colorado Springs and it looks like they're gonna cover this up. Why."

" Okay well -- have a name he could be from Tennessee. But it's obviously healthcare is a major issue for everybody don't forget to upload those videos. We have others were not -- Ron right now with Charles you're gonna -- this wonderful record demeanor -- vision no tort reform. In this medical reform and in the absence of that it's not a serious issue another protecting from medical malpractice and I look I speak from some experience in the mid seventy's that's how old analyst. I was at this however I am now I was a physician who mass general hospital. Those were the early days of these huge settlements -- long before the monstrous settlements have today in the lawsuits and all that. He did then in the seventies all of us -- order tests that we knew we needed for only one reason. To defend against a lawyer if something happened. If you had to reform where you would socialize the costs of honest mistakes. Instead of these huge suits where if you hit the jackpot you win fifty million. And the lawyer gets a third of it while others suffering get nothing. If if we have a system of of of socializing. That risk. And relieved physicians of the fear of lawsuits. You would say untold amounts of money to anybody who practices medicine. We'll tell you and as a patient now I can often see. I know which tests are defensive in which a meal. And of course it's disguised as normal a patient who happens not to be a physician is not going to know. And that's an enormous cost and the president himself explicitly. That the AMA he said he was huge he was not going to go. For tort reform he didn't even happen under Republican administration so it's not going to happen. Because of that trial lawyers were so strong and powerful but that's the heart of the issue and cost control."

" Molly thank you very much of this thing about it -- major one more thing we want to -- more topic can really quickly the IG investors. Inspector general for americorps. Mr. Walton has been told that he's going to be five and the letter that came out mentioned that he was. Essentially disoriented. Confused."

" Disoriented and he had lost the confidence of the board of the of americorps and therefore the board. -- the pres the United States and his ethics chief counsel mr. Walton said. All the allegations contained in a letter released last night the White House -- total lie that's a direct quote from him. But he's still on thirty -- suspended suspension with pay but he's going to be fired. Claire McCaskill the Democrat who question the White House about the legitimacy of the firing now appears satisfied. They have yet to be strong Republican advocates outside of -- I send the house and Charles Grassley. And Iowa on the Senate side -- taken up mr. -- and cause it appears the White House is gonna get its way on this."

" Now first of all we had Charles must know what is americorps. It is an agency of the federal government that is a volunteer agency. And volunteer paid volunteers. And national corporation for community service is what it's called and it won't end. Was the IG for them and among the investigations he did was also one for Santa Sacramento's mayor. Who also happen to be a big. Obama supporter Kevin Johnson yeah question was whether this was time to back."

" Right the White House denies that and it's 11 fact that they point to that. They believe makes the case that the allegations brought by mr. Walton were not as strong as maybe he indicates that they work. He referred them for criminal prosecution. The US attorney for the eastern district of California the US attorney did not follow up did not carry out any criminal prosecution because of the allegations raised by mr. Walton. On his side of the ledger. The charity involved saint hope. Reached a settlement paying back half of its grants to americorps. So clearly there was something there. We just don't know how what it was."

" Margaret says paid volunteers equals Jumbo shrimp oxy -- okay Charles your thoughts on this. In. And you know today in this all goes back to the media question to today Robert Gibbs said one of the reasons that put out this letter was because fox. Was asking for recent let alone Claire McCaskill of the Senate Democrat from Missouri who is a -- campaign co chair for the home campaign. It was just it's just an amazing story."

" Isn't that the function of the press to ask -- question. I mean -- you know the way that the fox is being demonized this week it's upon. Is it the administration has support of all the major media. Oh there is out there we would we choose an opposition isn't one page in north street journal. Talk radio and fox -- what they want what with the -- nobody outside of the opinion magazines I'm talking about and reporting news. And it and they can't stand. It's too much up for them. You know when you have an opposition outlets everywhere speaking a lot of opposition voices. You want to say as well as the mainstream reporters had stayed in the Bush Administration. It's a service."

" But -- is just just to make one point major makes key point there that there was this settlement that paid back half of the amount clearly something wrong. What's taking place when they wouldn't have agreed to pay the amount back. An and I think there are reasons for firing -- walk on -- rather flimsy confused disoriented and unable to answer questions. I mean. Look at Robert -- half on half -- he conducts a press briefing and that would describe him as the reason they portrayed him as this dot during the old man who is danger it was dangerously out of touch with reality is not because fox was wondering about it but because. Democrats had started to join with Republicans in questioning the firing of this man. Republicans like senator Grassley and -- alliance congressman had started raising questions in the White House was a little nervous but when Claire McCaskill Johnson and then congressman. What's the guy's name Ed towns from New York jumped in and wanted more information from the White House. The White House realized that this was gaining legs and the only way to stop that was to throw this guy under the bus described as a tottering old man. That's what they did it it was ugly I've seen -- TV three or four times he seems simple -- control of his faculties meeting at which he was -- out of it. That's what it implies there was a meeting in which has shown us is some sort of out of good."

" that you want her bath towel big Claire McCaskill. They it -- comments and suggestion might be more of back story here about him. --"

" Glenn Beck show that they put about to do this twenty minute speech. And that he wasn't prepared to do it and they didn't find it it's acceptable and what he was saying that's what he said today but one media and that. And -- meeting at their summit now sleep in a meeting that we don't know how generally give you the last word here."

" What will build the -- what they I would just say about this larger issue here. Is will this have a chilling effect on inspectors general across the federal government who play a vital role of vital role for the taxpayer. In dealing with malfeasance. Breaking the law and misuse of taxpayer money -- the central. -- powered an enforcement mechanism to keep an eye on the taxpayer dollars they were better than congress they were better than administrations and if the ideas across the board in this town get the feeling. That they can be thrown out of office because they get crosswise with any -- cross ways rather than anyone in the administration. That's a dangerous signal to send. That's the bottom line of this story I'm not saying that's where this is heading and why there."

" Rational concern about this okay. Major at the White House thank you very much panel thank you as always. A lot of comments -- says she's -- three comments and none of them have posted now one has -- thank you very much. Wall open gates is a comment from Craig in Virginia week is a deal we get so many thousands of comments we try to post as many as we can. Keep them -- do you think this is worth that we do. This online show drop us a lot of special report foxnews.com. Also tune in every Wednesday at 7 PM. And every night. During the week 6 PM and make sure that you upload the videos that's it for us on special report on line control room how about a wave goodbye. Thanks all the guys stick around and do this is offering."