Partnership Agreement

" Well -- group acorn is being investigated in at least fourteen states for voter registration fraud back in the 2008 election. Many of its workers have pleaded guilty to such fraud. And then we learned that for some reason the Obama's -- to get it department has decided to partner with acorn. To help conduct the 2010 census that is very important to elections that the census comes out. A couple of months ago acorn spokesperson. Came on this program. And downplayed acorns rule in the census saying acorn workers would not. Be helping to conduct the census and would not be going door to door with -- here. It'll be the census that'll be hiring work does not include and and you'll be helping provide them with those workers not to connect manually -- and -- Again we the media the sponsor community events don't read sky agreed to sponsor my -- and Megan until. Isn't it is an -- what -- think those two well it's not only know eight port -- civil defense officials with acorn workers. The others that might not an editorial we've agreed to a politics that says no acorn workers are going out or not we've agreed to now. My next guest says. That was a lot. Tom Fenton is the president of judicial watch and he says he's got the documents to prove it Tom good morning to you. -- expect -- to lie to you been investigating exactly what the role is that -- going to be playing in the census and this is important because the census does help decide. -- district lines are drawn and that can really affect elections. And so that's why there that they're not supposed to politicize it anyway and that's what people get worried when in your group like acorn is helping in any way. Now acorn spokesperson claimed to me that acorn would not be helping the Census Bureau find any workers. We're going to be going to get door to door and that its workers people who did work for acorn would not be the -- going your door to door what did documents you've come up with. Proof. Well the part."

" Would alert its activists and -- markets to the fact that the census is hiring. Tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of individuals to help conduct the census and presumably cents acorn is in a position then. To shuffle and direct resonates. Of its activists and his supporters to the Census Bureau to have temporarily work. A collecting the information on people's. You know doing accounting."

" So when he would Scott Levenson came on this program and told me that acorn would not. Be helping to connect the Census Bureau with any of its workers people would -- on the worked for acorn in the 2000 election. The documents you -- say that's not true."

" While you can see where they check what they want to do what they don't want to do one of the things they check that they are willing to do would be to help the census hire workers so presumably acorn. Is now in a position to funnel resonates to the Census Bureau on the outstanding question is. I've just how many resonates they did direct the census and it's a Census Bureau hiring former acorn activists are volunteers."

" How can we find that out I mean if acorn just because acorn said that they wanted to do it doesn't mean the Census Bureau said."

" the Census Bureau is set they would accept resonates from all quarters except of course if you work. You are associated with the law enforcement or anti immigration group for hate group which is another matter. But. They are willing to work with acorn they let them join up after the deadline had passed. And when you review the documents making these you see this sort of a -- response to the concerns about having acorn worked there. But there's no acknowledgment. As you noted at the top the hour -- at the top of the segment that they've been involved in any criminal and fraudulent activity. So I I don't know why you would want to be associated with the group. They can't register voters -- appropriately and -- and then to -- individuals appropriately."

" Well that's the thing you point out that the Census Bureau has decided not to allow. Law enforcement throughout their helped conduct the census and in you can't Latin and conduct -- census of your part of equal anti immigrant group. But."

" let's be clear the Census Bureau conducts a census they don't want to partner with groups. That they perceive as hate groups and they -- those they -- the word hate in with the law enforcement. And anti immigrant. So if you say the wrong things you can't partner -- our government. What if -- acorn you can't. And that to me as an ideological. Discrimination. -- First Amendment concerns. And this is to me than a Paula -- a memo part two. Where you have our government have has -- attitude towards -- conservatives. They don't want to work with us."

" Well who decides what's hate group we -- what are hate group I had a problem because we've seen that and they get your wallet get an apology out of the Department of Homeland Security secretary. And and it was her department it was behind the first met August described hate groups is including people who oppose abortion and opposing an illegal immigration."

" May your lawyer maybe you can find me the federal government definition of what hate group is but you know coming and the Obama administration. They essentially mean anyone who disagrees with them."

" I mean are we essentially -- appoint Tom are you telling me that you cannot have. You can't have cops and get it this is the way to -- the past you would in effect along more than eleven helped conduct the census and that allow people to be intimidated but but but but the bottom line is we can't cops. God help the census. We can't people who oppose it illegal immigration that help of the census. Because they need to consider part -- hate group least that's a possibility. But you can't have a group that's under investigation for fraud in fourteen states and whose workers are actually pleaded guilty to fraud. In several states very OK that's fine. --"

" I exactly right so the fraternal order of police. Is not welcome the Census Bureau but the radicals and acorn on. What we're spending any doubt about the stock -- anybody raise a stink about this as any candidate is it too late is that partied in a done deal. Now it's not too late we're racing mistake about it and I think pressure needs to be brought to bear on the census bureau of the further explain. The ongoing relationship there is a relationship we've confirmed it. -- between the Census Bureau and acorn and both parties try to play down both the Census Bureau and the acorn people try to play down. You know there was a snide comment one of the emails suggesting like I -- the agreement was done under bush now wasn't done under bush -- Dodd Senator Obama. And you know as you know if a President Obama is an acorn activists in my view. He represented them he trained them he's an alliance with them. And does so you know this is a really serious issue people want to have faith that the census is the politicized. And when you examine these documents when you see the attitude towards conservatives. Law enforcement or anti immigrant which is their code word for pretty much all conservatives. You see that. This is not a bureau this acting in neutral fashion."

" Now well I'll tell you what we. -- I have -- got Scott -- on this program anymore he's just too incendiary got the F bomb on our program what I had to cut his Mike away he's not welcome here again that we will take any other spokesperson from acorn and will takes up a spokesperson from the Census Bureau. To come on explain their side of the story they have it open invitation -- meantime thank you for being here we appreciate you can you do."