Over the Line?

" President Obama is holding firm to his opposition of enhanced interrogation techniques for terror suspects he made that clear again during his news conference Wednesday night. Chief Washington correspondent Jim Angle looks at whether some of the president's reasoning. Really holds up. We report you -- said."

" Where there Obama was asked if he's -- intelligence reports that Vice President Cheney argues are evidence that tough interrogations saved American lives mister Obama seemed to concede that is the case but -- that isn't really the question that. We got information from these individuals that were subjected to these tactics. Doesn't answer the core question. Which is. We have -- that same information without resorting to these tactics Andy argued that ruling out all the enhanced interrogation techniques was the right thing to do not because we didn't get useful information but because. We could've gotten this information otherwise but officials familiar with the interrogation program say that is simply not true with top al-Qaeda operatives."

" fourteen major or sixteen. High value targets we captured what all trained to resist interrogation."

" Interrogators started with a mild -- forms a question with -- Abu zubaydah the first high ranking terrorists captured. When he stopped cooperating they slowly escalated techniques eventually turning to water boarding. After that zubaydah gave -- much more information some of -- leading to the capture Ramzi bin Al -- which then led to 9/11 planner Khaled Sheikh Mohammed as a former CIA director told fox last year."

" There's a whole string of captures interrogations. Leading to sell through and captures two interrogations itself and captured."

" In fact Khaled Sheikh Mohammed provided information that exposed a plot to launch and 9/11 style attack on the US bank tower in Los Angeles information obtained through enhanced interrogation methods including waterboarding."

" Two of the people against the waterboarding. Was used created. Significant fraction. About recording and al-Qaeda over a period of several years."

" But as President Obama asked could we have gotten the same information in other ways critics of harsh interrogation complain that college and Mohammed was water boarded -- 183. Times if he'd been willing to cooperate is the president hopes. That would not have been necessary. Though the 183 number comes from every time water was poured not separate episodes. Every application a little whatever amount of water -- used counts as waterboarding. President Obama made one other argument last night pulled from --"

" and London was being -- to smithereens. Had. 200 or so detainees. And Churchill said we don't torture. Even though the British mr. Obama said we're being subjected to unimaginable risk but as it turns out his account is not true. British records show they use the equipment of enhanced interrogation techniques such as sleep deprivation and exposure to cold water among other things to successfully extract information. From captured German -- Brett okay Jim thank you."