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Published: Thu, 26 Mar 2009
Description: Historian Robert Gellately on lessons to be learned past mob rules
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" Is in order joining me now is Robert a lately. He's a history professor at Florida State University author of a great book Lenin Stalin and Hitler. Robert I have to tell you I read your book when -- come out of a year and a half ago. Correct yes I read your book and for the last couple weeks. I keep seeing scenes and I'm like gosh I've seen these seeds before. And I couldn't remember where was this morning I'm at a meeting and I remember I said the staff Leonard left a Lenin Stalin and Hitler. I am not comparing and I don't you are too I'm not comparing what's currently going on an arm illustration or in Washington on either side with these guys. But I see echoes of the past that frighten me. -- Didn't the mobs under land and go in and kill all the farmers. And that he didn't have anybody that could actually run farms are run businesses. And that's kind of what we're doing with -- AIG were going in after these people. We're not killing -- thank god but we're going in after them and we won't have anybody left in our financial industry to help us true or false front."
" Well that's true and in fact the Russian revolution. Took a full scale attack on the on the banks and on the economic system. On the civil service. On these everything that kept the country's going at all. It went into complete collapse. Very quickly. The government thought of banning money. Then of course -- without into the countryside and to people's property way and redistributed. And it was of course catastrophe. Which ended in 1920. Marlins ended in civil beat the civil war and in 1920 led two horrible famines. Which thanks to the United States which intervened improvement save many lives but it was a dreadful business. And there's no doubt about it that the this -- scale any kind of a full scale assault. Assault on the best and the people who could run the economy and take care of agriculture. It's bound to lead to a horrible conclusion OK and has historically."
" I mean it. Robert is it. Is it too crazy to say. Well no I mean who well wasn't it Churchill those whose than those who haven't read history are destined to repeat it wasn't that said that. But it at that these these things are. It it would with Mussolini it's with Lenin -- Stalin and -- with Hitler the same kinds of things. Happen and I'm seeing a lot of the same kinds of things where. Manufactured. Crowds. Light here in the United States these unions are are stepping to the plate. And and putting on show was but the American people -- like -- look at the average person is protesting. And they're demonizing. The rich -- for the rich industrialists where the cause and the problem in Germany there were the cause of the problem in Russia and they had a real live."
" I -- That you're absolutely right I mean this is the road to a disaster there's no doubt about it that at a time. Social anxieties such as we have now. Where a lot of people are worried about how they're going to keep their lives together when they see his savings going down the drain where they feel cheated by the economic system. We're looking at the stock market every single day. Not one -- not any -- money invested in that perhaps but thinking about it as a barometer for how for their own wellbeing and how they're doing. There's no doubt that the a lot of people complain on those emotions and sentiments and it's not helpful thing Iran really is not helpful."
" And and real -- there was a legal -- a revolution in in Germany and a that's the one I think I see. Before -- nasty -- the good the big guys all the big companies and everything else and just like here they were all for they're like he had he had because it they thought it was going to help them and then it was too late to pullout and it was more of a legal --"
" Should right. That is absolutely correct and compare two Russian revolution which is unbelievably violent them right. Nazi revolution was legal and we have to put in quotation marks. But and basically he was appointed as the chancellor of Germany and I gradually with made himself made his way into a position of dictator. He was voted in all the way. He reduce the civil service all through laws or -- laws or. You know what passed for laws right and it really there was almost no resistance from this meeting incredibly difficult to resist because everything looks illegal. And 1 morning people woke up in you know months only months had passed and the whole thing had to. It was already too late."
" We're I think you very much in and and love to have you on and spends more time and it does America the book is Lenin Stalin and Hitler if this is I think it's out of soft cover -- about a year year and apple. Please read this book if I read it when it first came out and it's not -- all -- came to me here at the last couple of days because it's it's all happening again I'm not saying that these people. Are our in our horizon but let me tell you something it's spooky the similarities on how it's used. All right."
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