Holy Smackdown

" All right cinematic can -- and Michael only smack down the Pope schooling House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today. Over her support for abortion rights after the two met privately. The -- of making it very clear to the speaker that he has a duty to protect the unborn. A -- is my next guest had -- months ago. -- now the archbishop of Denver Charles. Should vote is this a very good to have you back. Thank you should be that no one I got very different breeds from both of -- that the the pope's message of that meeting and and the speaker's message of that meeting but the gist of the -- is that. And she has to do you respect life what did you make of that."

" Well it's true you know every Catholic -- whether you're famous or. Anonymous whether you're a public official or private citizen has responsibility be faithful. What our church believes about human life and we believe human life is sacred impressions from the moment of conception. So that applies to the speaker as long as it does to me and TU and anyone -- a Catholic."

" Why do you think did he met with her for this very. Purpose to conveyed our convey to the world given prominence. That this is an important teaching."

" I don't think so I think that she asked for the meeting and I think he accepted the meeting because. She's public official United States' third in line to be president United States. And I think the Pope as the head of Vatican city state has a duty and obligation in his mind to meet with all. Political people who present themselves and so I think was a gracious act as that's head of Vatican's these states that he met with her. You know I think he took advantage of the occasion that reminders -- very important and I'm happy did that."

" As as you did with me discipline we chatted in Denver during the convention. About. This speakers interpretation. Of when life begins that you would argue very simply stated -- a position that life begins at conception. She had been quoting I believe from. Various biblical sources that that might not be the case in memory fails me a little -- he said exactly but. You argue that it's a fairly black and white issue to you can refreshment my."

" Well as is fairly black and white issue isn't clearly black and white issue pitchers without doubt believes that. Human life begins at the moment of conception which he quoted one biblical sources but some. Ancient writers of the church that raised questions about exactly when this whole would come into the human body. But that the consistent teaching of the church from the beginning. And now is that abortion is always wrong and all circumstances. And human life is -- from the moment of conception. There's no doubt would you grand -- communion. In your church. Well I'd I'd like to Tucker's she was coming to a church in in the our size to Denver. I consider what I would think anyone again if you don't except for the church teaches. You shouldn't present yourself for communion because communion is -- agreement with what the church teaches. And as I said clearly that applies to all of us. And I would expect her to abide by Richard stands on these important matters so what your definition she should not. Be receiving holy communion. I don't think anyone who dissonance that church teaching should receive holy communion when it comes to serious matters of faith and morals and it applies to her. As it would apply to me. I think anyone at all."

" Okay because that the the departed the -- to be indicating in his remarks today that said that. You see this idea where you can be -- a good public servant and a good Catholic and -- society. Many societies. That have pro choice views. Are almost mutually excuses but exclusive rights is so she's in a box how does she get out of that box."

" Well I don't think it's a box to defend the truth and to stand up for what should not be right even if others in the community. Disagree with you being honest about our moral principles. Is this stuff is a sign of maturity and is this the sign of being a statesman and I think that Catholic politicians are required to be. Both good Americans and good Catholics at the same time and be convincing. When they present the position. The community on issues of basic human rights this is a human rights issue. From the point of view of the church and not theological or or religious perspective. Our religious perspective supports that but that's not the source of our our belief about the sickness of human life. Your sacred. Group of your listeners acre site sacred we thank god that he's made his in his own image and likeness and we need to respect that -- and it. There's a place everyone."

" Then Barack Obama is not a Catholic and some of his positions and move since becoming president. And they disturb you."

" Yes I was very disturbed when he changed that Mexico City policy and and the -- funds be given to international groups that would favor abortion. I think that was is that a big mistake and in a worrisome sign about possibilities might happen in the future."

" Or that it's kind of like a political football what was an official finding Republicans reversed that what -- in charge Democrats -- what -- When they're in charge we think this is done."

" But I think that abortion should not be a partisan issue it's a human rights issue. -- would be nice if people from both parties would take right position I'm not exporting. Funds. That would support abortion. It doesn't have to be a Democrat position. It should be. A position all Americans that we should support. Abortion and other countries are archbishop Charles approved thank you very much for good thank you very much for her. Welcoming me. It's."