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Published: Tue, 10 Feb 2009
Description: New health care reform rules turn up in spending bill
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" We're back to that midnight health care insertion into the Senate spending plan. The new rules could lay the groundwork for sweeping reforms things like health care rationing for seniors possible limits on medical research. And government guidelines for tiger doctor can choose to treat you. Who's behind it why was this not debated in the full light of day. Good questions for the author of the end of prosperity Wall Street Journal senior economic writer Stephen Moore back with a Steve good morning to you I don't mind Mike pence is a Republican from Indiana the top of the hour he said. This is something that's -- was with slid in there on Saturday night by -- quite."
" Follow that what happened. Well we don't exactly know what happened this this news story really has exploded on the public scene in just the last point four hours -- We've -- just inundated with fact complaints from people. About the implications. Of having the government essentially dictate treatment we don't know exactly how it got in the -- we know that Tom Daschle. Who you know what's going to be Bill Clinton's HHS secretary -- has been talking about Pittsburgh for many years and all of a sudden there was buried in this 800."
" They sell C villainy but to our viewers a woman -- Betsy Mulcahy you know the name from Nevada and why write a book I apologize that's in the court. She wrote this piece and we've all read it last night again today got she says the bill's health rules wolf that every single person the United States yeah."
" Style well especially. Will affect elderly people because one of the ways if we move more towards a nationalized healthcare system as this bill would move us one step towards that. What you have to do to restrain costs what many other countries do like Canada Britain. Is they essentially bill ration care and they tell patients you're eligible for this kind of care but this is too expensive. And -- so what this bill would essentially deal is set up a kind of pricing mechanism to help people yes you -- we can't afford to treat you for best but not that suffers elderly people who may want a let's say -- hip replacement bell or someone who has diabetes who may want some kind of Bob exotic kind of treatment that could work. Those made it may be opt ground and people in the insurers simply won't -- report that you Shanahan a mouthful there more than a handful actually yeah who -- this in. But again we don't know the details bill I just learned of this myself. A yesterday in packed Rush Limbaugh made a big deal out of it as a radio showing just six because all sorts of calls in the congressional offices and now everybody's running around Capitol Hill say where did this -- want from nobody knows how this got inserted in the belt while the health."
" Care industry is the largest employer in the United States what. It produces 17%. Of the nation's GDP it while they have this you're right in this one to one industry that's -- I heard from a lady yesterday in Arizona who taught me a story about how she has diabetes and she had tried. Various kind of treatments have been to many doctors and -- she finally found a doctor literally safe to relax from being up dictated. That's the kind of treatment she was saying you would she would have been able to shop around for health care. Under this kind of system so people are pretty outraged over the idea -- Panama and turns reaction as you mentioned Tom Daschle him is his candidacy is no longer has been attacked by issue. He wrote a book about this that's right and and apparently he was quoted I -- but I guess it was two years ago -- this article. If that means attaching a health care plan to the federal budget so big it. Well that that appears to be what is happening in the Senate version that right now once we get a conference on the house committee do we have any indication as whether or not this thing lives --"
" Well that's why it's important for people to express their outrage over this -- because it you know -- was starting tomorrow they're going to have this conference between house and senate iron out the differences if there's enough outrage I think a lot of this will to be taken. Taken out they said just in the last 24 hours of people. Have been aware of this there have been howls of complain all over the country another example by the ways Oregon has a system very much like this where you basically have a system where some types of treatments are covered by the Oregon health care system others aren't and they just have a sense pecking order in if you if you're bit treatment is too expensive they want to allow --"
" That's right now say that word he's saying yes I just read from Betsy McCoy is article one more time this stimulus bill affect every part of health care can. Offer medical and nursing education to help patients are treated how much hospitals. Get paid this is enormous yeah Stephen Moore thank you for your time wore on it here we're talking Jon tester. Our democratic senator from Montana about this and more coming up top of the hour Stevens. Come on back citadel cadet."
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