Truth Is Out There

" When the in the meantime from overseas today Britain's ministry defenses today refusing to comment. On a report that they're pilots spent years trying to shoot down US -- It allegedly happened a number of times dating back the 1980s. Or nick Pope is our guest -- this information public. He's also the former head of the ministry of defense is UFO project so. If anybody knows we think it's huge knicks are welcome to our program here from the Thames river in London now you say. That they've been trying to do this for about thirty years. We know that. Well there are many cases which are now in the public domain about this the ministry of defense here in Britain has been investigating UFO's since the 1950s. But other countries as well have had these sorts of incidents and I think it's a question of trying to put them together and see see what patent images and we that was the case in England. 1957. Where pilots attempted to bring down a UFO by firing -- it. That was -- Iran. In 1976. The UFO whatever it wasn't we don't know I've. I've managed to deactivate. The pilots say -- left. Weapons and finds us fascinating -- that would let's go through this step at a time right now and you set -- quoted saying that. We want to shoot down a UFO. That will resolve the issue once and for raw. Add to your knowledge have they ever been successful. No they haven't sent out every night -- personally of course not advocating. That sort of strategy but what I was saying is that. Every country whether it's America Britain. Whatever it takes the territorial. Integrity of its air space very very seriously particularly post 9/11 of course. This is. Whatever you think about UFO's whatever you think they all what you're skeptic Europe believe or what have. This is a defense issue it's a national security exceed its enhanced safety issue and while rules of engagement for of course highly classified that the lost -- option is of course a ways to shoot down by now you've said that the royal air force would only engage when they perceived a threat. What had either file what is a perceived threat. Is that a -- of all that there. No I am I yes on under some circumstances it has today if if a pilot believes that said that they -- I don't. But we've had some cases in England where they have been Mitchell told flights between. US -- your kids and then what military jets. Dog fight yet beat the dog -- yeah absolutely these things. The US -- she -- office I think from you know up and in each problem. But actually if you look behind that that silly season stories about this these things are seen by pilots that try to tone right off and there are -- many many incidents. -- on the record over the years -- naval air base as there was a dog five pardon the interruption here over the hills of of of England -- the country Saturday. We know about that by now would we not. Well yes I do indeed that's the exciting news the ministry of defense is in the process of -- classifying. And releasing it cease fire off to a life of UFO files going back decades and I won't back somehow gotten too. Some of it has already been released. And is available at the national off my son -- that the website some of it. You know it's gonna take about a year or so I've sent to finish this crisis but it's it's happening. Right now and people are going to be able to see these sorts of incidents for themselves but like to say it's not just Britain as has happened all around the specifically -- spears. Which eyewitnesses -- to be UFO's. Now we have a little -- that back here in our own country okay no different parts of the country New Jersey and Arizona. And what they've concluded some of these cases is that neighbors are filled up helium balloons putting a flare on the bottom that lighting at letting go up in the air. So it looks like it's interesting at a horse pattern or are certain area but. It's not a UFO -- It just somebody pulled out excellently. We we have the same thing here in Britain and I've actually seen these sorts of things myself yes of course 95%. Of UFO sightings to return now to date things like these these helium balloons and Bancroft lights but that's not what's of interest."