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Under Fire

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Under Fire

Published: Wed, 24 Sep 2008

Description: NRA releases barrage of anti-Obama ads in swing states

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" the National Rifle Association is taking dead aim at Barack Obama when it comes to gun rights. A Michigan voters featured in one of the ads. Take a look. It's something you can get elected. -- compromise my way of life for any politician and I won't support someone who doesn't believe in my right so the sense that now not ever wanted to assure. He then freedom to defeat Obama get defensive gun ban Obama dot com. The Obama camp not happy with these ads but. Are they true Bill Burton national spokesman for the Obama campaign joins us now good morning bill. -- All right so that's the question of the day they may get allegations you guys might not like what are they true in particular let's start with the one that says Obama up. Opposes my right. To own a handgun for self defense."

" False. I mean I you know these ads are just complete crap I can't believe that they're getting free air time for folks to see them -- the Washington Post this morning that a long fact check. That pointed out that you know point by point these hazardous -- like of course Barack Obama. Thinks that people should have a right. To own guns to defend themselves to go hunting he's got a long record on it and you know bottom line is that these ads are just not true -- has he ever supported the ban on handguns. What he's supported has been. You know some common sense gun -- sure but never had ever been or have we can -- handguns. Oh I'm sorry I I I didn't make me to make it seem like I was. Not be showing your question no he doesn't support a ban on handguns it's just any Democrat through all these. Now all these ads are just you know an attempt to make it seem like something that just isn't true and like I said the fact that they get free air time on fox. Just because Aaron puts them up I think is unfortunate but the point at which we're not talking about balanced just by having me on to talk about its airing things that just aren't true and so."

" I tell -- bell bursts well it's not just five -- all over the Internet and it's all over the TV and the -- we need everybody come on. And respond to it which is what parents aren't so I zone out what I what I like about it I was not just say a -- these ads exists but to say that. There are false and I appreciate what lesson did they are taught that -- if they aren't all that you're free to claim that -- the viewers on not the business of taking opinions on these things but I will point this out -- yeah I admit that -- Obama is he's bill let me let me get a question in any kind of fun brought the F -- execute -- and no right to excuse me. This is visit I shall not run the interview the question is the NRA has come out with a document which made headlines months ago. From 1996. In which your candidate while running for the Illinois. State legislature. Said it. And I and I quote the question wasn't am looking at it right here. Do you support state legislation. To ban the manufacture sale and possession of handguns in the answer. Was yet."

" Right and as this has been well documented before and I'm sure you've seen the reports I'm sure a lot of the viewers have seen the reports already. That is a question that was not filled out by Obama. That is that is not his position is never been his position is never supported a ban on handguns. He supports a person's right to bear arms to defend themselves to go hunting I mean these are all things that are well documented and I understand your point that. You're not in the business of opinion making but airing ads that just are not true I just think it does a disservice to --"

" That's there he is that why not I threw myself because I can tell you notwithstanding the fact you say Barack Obama didn't fill out that questionnaire in 1996. An amended questionnaire was circulated. Shortly thereafter that has Obama's hand written notes on X. And it that has the exact same question in the exact same answer there's no question that Obama saw that version of the questionnaire."

" Sure sure have been a couple notes on the front page not on this. Questioned by any means are nowhere near it I don't think -- and he didn't change the -- right now is very consistent. Opposition on -- person's right to choose and he's never been for banning handguns and you know I've said that this has been well report well documented long before these false and -- ads ever went up on the air."

" Though that's one (%expletive) -- so let's and that's one thing but don't come on his program and -- its bet that the claim. That he's against in New -- claim that he's always been against -- hand behalf handgun ban. Has been proven as false this document which your candidate handled at least in Jack's question. Into the matter that RC and carries the what did you know I'm not -- not on the -- time for raising the question I want again I don't."

" I'm just fine thank you were Fox News. But this has been signed it has been well documented it's been reported on time and time again over the course last month reporters and gone in there really spent a lot of time looking at this. And you know all the points these ads are just. Flatly false."

" But it hasn't really for a leg up the Washington Post up also says it it it does debunk a lot of these claims in -- defense that one. Not so much but many of the others it does it also comes out and says Obama is no friend of the NRA you disagree with that. That's from the Washington Post. "

" I don't want to get into like whether or not Obama supports. Some -- this group he's got a lot of folks who support him where members of piano. And a lot of folks who support gun rights to support Obama because Barack Obama thinks that people should have a right to own a firearm -- to defend themselves he had to go hunting. Before. You know for those reasons and so you know to claim that he doesn't supporter or you know the Second Amendment or the right to own a farm. It's just not true answer these acts so these ads point by point by point. Are just flatly false. They'll Burton thanks so much for coming up with funds -- anybody. You -- all of us."

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by saying that comes with -- ill grace from rob to call Senator Obama for proper. Senator McCain was against the action actually didn't notice that. As Senator McCain as Senator McCain earlier this year in California since he was against offshore drilling now his fourth. The senator Obama's position is very clear the Second Amendment is an individual right there's no question about that. Is doesn't have a limitation sure
message that actually the polls in Pennsylvania very good right now the senator Obama's up by double digits. And the reason is his economic message he's starting to come through. Pennsylvanians care about their budget even more than the budget Washington and people are starting to learn for example the amount of tax cut. We'll give them three times as much money is the McCain tax cut if there ordinary working families. So things like that senator Obama's position on the home mortgage crisis. Of those things are starting to resonate with those blue collar voters who are feeling the
Well Chris first Ohio and Pennsylvania are similar in that regard Senator Clinton did very well on Pennsylvania partly thanks to Ed Rendell. Partly thanks to a lot of those voters feel much more comfortable with the position she took the Senator Obama . Who among other things does want to raise taxes he wants to raise taxes on everything. From Social Security to investment income member of a hundred million people out there including a lot of those working class pennsylvanians in -- and who do have capital gain income in fact about 25%. Of those folks make less than 50000 bucks a year so they do care their taxes are gonna go up there worried about that. Seniors -- disproportionately have dividend income they're going to see their taxes go up under Senator Obama . This is a fragile time in our economy and people are nervous about it and for a lot of good reasons. It's not the time to put in place the biggest tax increase we've ever seen so I think -- people are nervous and they're worried and I think a lot of those voters are are likely to. Stick with Senator McCain as the polls are showing now. This week we had a town meeting inside that in -- remain Qaeda wanna. Congressman let
this country if you're in the 80% down. In terms of income senator Obama's tax cuts will put more money in your pocket -- senator McCain's that's somewhat. Number two Senator Obama has a good position on trade he wants to see fair trade not just free trade. But fair trade he wants to
there and -- the Bill Clinton fashion. And making great case for Senator Obama as our next president.
No I I don't think so what Senator McCain was talking about is that. Late last year and again this year Senator Obama did support the gun. Fan in DC and now it seems to have changed his position on that -- McCain indicated he's
Well first of all John McCain has switched positions on all of things it made independents and moderates and even some Democrats like myself. Think that he was a new type of Republican. These are core issues of tax cuts who couldn't stand on the bush tax cuts given the economy we have today. But John McCain has for political advantage. Barack Obama if you take for example wiretapping. He hasn't changed is mind he believes it should be sanctions against the private companies who allowed individual Americans be wiretapped. He just voted for that bill because he thought to build and other things he's going to Sheikh. Those sanctions later on in the Senate. So a couple of things that you say or change of positions are new and and me and my judgment things where Senator Obama has a reasonable explanation for what.
As a congressman Portman as we just showed it's pretty clear that John McCain has slept on a variety of issues such as the bush tax cuts. Wire Obama's flip flops worse than this. Well first of all when you look at senator Obama's changes recently including. Except think. Thing you accept public financing in the opinions minor network affiliate core issue in terms of the new politics that we've talked about. This really did it goes to more than just changes in facts and circumstances that he goes to sort of changing your approach to politics and I think when Senator McCain looks at some of these issues. Like immigration which you mentioned he's still for comprehensive immigration reform but he believes enforcement first
Well even in my campaign finance -- Senator Obama never pledged. He would actually not do it he said he would seek agreement with the candidate the other candidates Senator McCain . I opted out of the campaign finance reform. Bill and that in the primaries and in fact got reviewed by the head
this is what matters you know it's it's not about the rhetoric. Senator Obama's and eloquent speaker the question is. You know what's he going to do for the country what Senator McCain into the country and if you look at the record and experience. Senator McCain hasn't and frankly infidelity and going to -- on some of -- that this is that we're looking for in the interest