• With: Mark Everson

    This is a rush transcript from "Your World," March 5, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: All right, well, how is this for a campaign pitch? "I'm from the IRS and I'm here to help."

    Ronald Reagan be damned, this former IRS commissioner says he is damn serious. He is running for president.

    And Mark Everson says, far from hurting him, his IRS background, to say nothing of other agencies, helps him. Who knows our deepest tax secrets better than the guy who used to police our tax police?

    He makes a pretty good case.

    The commissioner with me now.

    But, Commissioner, first on the IRS stuff, you want to put that up there front and center. Right? And do you think that is a risky strategy?

    MARK EVERSON, FORMER INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE COMMISSIONER: Neil, look, we have got to fix the tax code.

    And if we adopt a consumption tax, we can get 150 million people, 150 million Americans off the income tax rolls, still have an income tax for the high earners, and help our economy grow. It's just way too complex. And I just think, if we try to have reform and pick away at the various tax expenditures, that's going to be savage process. It's not going to work, Neil.

    CAVUTO: No, I think you're right.

    In terms of where the IRS is, you know where the financial bodies are buried, so to speak. But you also know from your experience at the Office of Management and Budget the numbers. I always think it's very crucial for anyone who wants to be president of the United States to have a vague concept of math, addition, subtraction, stuff like that.


    CAVUTO: So, you obviously have that. I mean, many can criticize given the enormous that has been debt run up over the last six years, that not all do.

    But how do you impress upon potential voters that you're the guy to get that under control, that you're the guy to simplify a tax code that is just a mess?

    EVERSON: Well, I have got a six-point program, Neil, and it's -- anybody can go to MarkforAmerica.com and see it.

    And I'm going to -- I'm trying to introduce a serious conversation with the American people, and be truthful with them, because I think our politicians, they are reluctant to tell the truth and introduce uncomfortable subjects, like controlling the spending, like going after the big banks which are operating in a -- really almost a lawless manner.

    Janet Yellen said yesterday, they better get their act together. So, they're just not going to take these issues on because there's too much money sloshing around in Wall Street that goes into their campaign chests.

    CAVUTO: Now, you have also said something that, "I'm one and done," so to speak, that you would run for a single term, and that's it. Right?


    EVERSON: I have served in two very different administrations, six years in the Reagan administration, six years with President George W. Bush.

    By year three, everybody up and down the line is thinking about the reelect. We deserve somebody who is thinking about the national interests full time and is not compromised, if you will, by the self-interest of reelection politics.

    Who knows, Neil. Maybe that Web site would have worked if the president had worried a little more about running the government instead of going around and doing fund-raisers.

    CAVUTO: Well, you know, you're right about that, though. The election cycle is such that the pressure for reelection happens almost days after you're elected.

    Having said that, though, that would with you two years, if you think about it, to do something, because even though you are committed to just the one four-year term, other Republicans would be looking to replace you for the next. And I'm wondering whether you're still in a pickle.

    EVERSON: I don't think.

    I think, if anything, this president has certainly proven that the presidency is always relevant and the job -- the job of the president is to run one of three co-equal branches of our government. I respect the limited powers of the presidency.

    I have always done my job trying to execute the laws as written, not as I might wish them to be. That's a full-time job, as is keeping our nation safe. That's a full-time job from the date of inauguration to the date that the next president comes in.

    CAVUTO: No, I'll tell you, Commissioner, I have looked at your background and a lot of your key points. And you make a very cogent, credible case.

    EVERSON: Thank you.

    CAVUTO: You have heard this question before.

    You're up against far more attractive financial candidates. The money is almost all accounted for, I'm told, and that you're not getting it. So how do you get that message out?

    EVERSON: I don't agree with you, Neil, that the money is almost all accounted for.

    Sure, they're giving up the money on Wall Street with $100,000 fund-raisers for super PACs. But the average voters, they are not yet engaged. We're going to go to Iowa and try to convince one voter at a time, and there are plenty of people. I have got plenty of people...


    CAVUTO: You have got to get in on that first debate.

    EVERSON: Yes.

    CAVUTO: You have got to get in on that second debate.

    So I'm just wondering now how you get to there with -- you know how they do with the poll numbers and everything else.

    EVERSON: Sure.