• With: Gov. Mike Huckabee

    This is a rush transcript from "Your World," September 5, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: Well, you know, a lot of Republicans can dish it out, but when it comes ISIS, they really haven`t a clear, coherent, and cogent strategy for how to deal with it, do they?

    Rand Paul is a very good example. Many of his critics say he is all over the map on it and is trying to justify what had been isolationist views only a few months ago to saying, no, this is what I meant all along today.

    To former Republican Governor, presidential candidate Mike Huckabee on ISIS first off and how you deal with them.

    What`s your position?

    FORMER GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE, R - ARKANSAS: Well, I think you have to recognize that ISIS is a cancer.

    If you have cancer in your body, you don`t say, doctor, I want you take it out, but not all of it. You know, leave a little there, because I don`t want to be unkind to the cancer. If it`s malignant, you get rid of it.

    Now, if it`s benign, you might decide you can live with it. We have got to understand ISIS is not a benign tumor on the earth. It`s a malignant tumor and it is not alone. It`s metastasized. It`s really a part of the original tumor, the Muslim Brotherhood, that now has many points of where it has metastasized, al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah.

    CAVUTO: Well, if you were president, and this was festering under you...

    HUCKABEE: Yep.

    CAVUTO: ... what would you do?

    HUCKABEE: You would go after it with everything you can, and that means not just airstrikes and going around and hitting a few targets.

    But you`re going to have to take this all the way to them, because this is not an organization that stops until you stop them. If you don`t just completely eradicate them, they`re going to keep popping up.

    CAVUTO: So, you don`t buy the president`s view that you can never do that?

    HUCKABEE: You can`t contain them. You can`t contain something as evil, as insidiously evil, because these aren`t people who want a piece of real estate. They don`t want to -- just a control of a particular geographical region.

    They really do want a global caliphate. And when you have that as your goal, keep in mind that I just got back this morning, 5:00 in the morning from Israel. Been there all week. I`m telling you, Israel is the outpost of terrorism. It`s where they want to attack, but it`s not where they would finish. If they annihilated it, you think they`re going to rub their hands together and say, oh, great, we`re done?

    (CROSSTALK)

    CAVUTO: No, I see what you`re saying.

    Well, then what did you make of what Rand Paul said on this regarding Hillary Clinton and her separating herself from the president and about helping the rebels in Syria a year ago, had we done that, then we wouldn`t be in the fix we`re in now?

    Paul argued, the senator argued quite the opposite. We would have put ISIS in power in Syria, and all these attack them, thirsty Republicans -- I`m not saying you -- but you would be getting and that opposite of what you wanted, you would have emboldened the real bad guys?

    HUCKABEE: It depends on when you intervened in Syria, because the original Syrian rebel opposition was in opposition to Assad. They were a Syrian freedom movement.

    CAVUTO: But they had ISIS elements.

    HUCKABEE: Well, but what happened, ISIS saw this as an opening. Let`s get rid of Assad, we can take over.

    So they in essence hijacked what was a freedom movement and it became an ISIS movement.

    CAVUTO: Would you a year ago have done that?

    HUCKABEE: Would I have intervened?

    CAVUTO: Yes.

    HUCKABEE: More like two years ago. You would had to have done it long before there was a definition...

    CAVUTO: Before ISIS could have festered?

    HUCKABEE: Absolutely.

    CAVUTO: Well, the reason why I mentioned to this particular issue, Governor, not to put you on the spot, but saying...

    HUCKABEE: Yes. You want to put me on the spot.

    (CROSSTALK)

    CAVUTO: Well, yes.

    HUCKABEE: Yes.

    CAVUTO: At 5:00 in the morning, you came in from Israel. And you outnumbered -- I figure you`re Silly Putty right now.

    HUCKABEE: Yes. OK.

    CAVUTO: I wondered about this because Chris Christie, too, has been beyond vague on, I think, just illegal immigration.

    Do we have the bite or is just -- this is the quote: "I won`t have anything to say on immigration unless and until I become a candidate for President of the United States."