• With: Dan Quayle

    This is a rush transcript from "Your World," May 30, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

    NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: The Associated Press now just the latest to send its regrets over a meeting that seems to be getting smaller and smaller by the hour. Quoting here from the AP, "If it is not on the record, AP will not attend and instead will offer our views on how the regulations should be updated in an open letter."

    So, the AP joins Fox, The New York Times, CBS, Huffington Post and CNN as committed no-shows. Highlights for children, though, will be there. I'm kidding.

    But here's where this thing starts getting really weird and scary, this very terse tweet -- and this is real -- from a DNC spokesperson, "POTUS asked AG to review how leak investigation are done, but some in the media refuse to meet with him. Kind of forfeits your right to gripe."

    Whoa. Is it me or does that sound a whole lot like another threat? We're keeping track and we're keeping score.

    To the former Vice President of these United States Dan Quayle in a Fox exclusive on an agency and a department, maybe a whole White House that can't get out of its own way.

    Wow. That sounds like Tony Soprano there, that e-mail.

    DAN QUAYLE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT: That's not a good program when you invite people to an off-the-record briefing or to anything...

    CAVUTO: And no one comes.

    QUAYLE: ... and no one shows, and they talk about it.

    CAVUTO: Yes.

    QUAYLE: Now, if they just didn't say anything about it...

    CAVUTO: They should just shut up. You're right.

    QUAYLE: ... then it would have been fine. But now that they're talking about it -- look, when you go do something like that, I would have thought that his press person might have vetted this and said, will you guys be willing to come? And so I don't know. They're sort of -- they're a little bit in the category of, they will do what we tell them.

    In this case, they didn't. And it wasn't just Fox.


    CAVUTO: No.


    CAVUTO: I know.

    QUAYLE: I can see Fox doing this, which is the right thing, but the other guys sort of...


    CAVUTO: Yes. Well, because it gets back the -- they might have very smart folks at Justice and everything else, big on I.Q., low on E.Q., I think, because this gets back to why reporters are upset in the first place, the secretiveness, the off-the-record, behind-the-scenes, maybe outright illegal activities that are going on.

    And you don't want to do anything that would foster that impression all over again, right?

    QUAYLE: Yes.

    The original act of trying to find the leak, I actually was supportive of that. We did it ourselves.

    CAVUTO: Right.

    QUAYLE: We tried -- we had these leaks, we tried to find out who did it.

    But what they did, they did it sort of backwards, because instead of going after the reporters, they know in the department who is probably leaking. You can tell by the story, the sources. At least, you have an idea. Go after the government employees who they think are leaking, which will obviously lead you to the press.

    CAVUTO: Lead you to...

    QUAYLE: But you start with that.

    But going and trying to find the leaker of these a very -- a couple of very, very sensitive situations, and I was stunned when it came out. I said, wow, this is really -- this is bad news.

    But now they -- it's interesting, because people like myself that are taking national security very seriously, I don't mind trying to find out who the leakers are. It seems to me the people on the far left, they don't really care who the leakers are. They just want that information out.

    There are certain secrets that need to be held.


    CAVUTO: Understood, but you have to be fair and balanced about the leaks, right?

    You're perfectly fine, it would seem -- not you, sir -- but the administration with leaks that make you look good, like what was happening behind the scenes to capture Usama bin Laden. But leaks that might not make you look as good, maybe not so enthusiastic.

    QUAYLE: No, no, look, leaking goes on all the time.

    CAVUTO: Right.

    QUAYLE: But leaking of sensitive classified national security, national interest material is just wrong. And, as a matter of fact, it's illegal in many cases. That's what the whole Valerie Plame was about.