VANDERSLOOT: No -- no change, no penalties, no fines, no change in my taxes.
CAVUTO: But just to defend yourself, you spent tens of thousands of dollars.
VANDERSLOOT: Almost $80,000.
CAVUTO: Eighty thousand dollars.
VANDERSLOOT: Per three audit. It was about $25,000 per audit.
CAVUTO: Now come along to this picking on conservative groups, raising a lot of questions about their tax exemption status, how many organizations they were reaching out to, how many individuals they were reaching out to.
Do you find this coincidental? Part of a pattern? What?
VANDERSLOOT: Well, gosh, I don't know.
CAVUTO: Well, what do you think?
VANDERSLOOT: Well, I hope it's just coincidence, because the kind of country I would like America to be, I don't -- I don't want us to become one of these Third World countries where you have to worry about your back all the time if you disagree with who is in charge.
I think that's particularly dangerous for us to enter into that era. And it's -- so when I came out and said, a year ago, when President Obama tacks a target to my back and he makes this list of eight people, who is supposed to be paying attention? Is it just the liberal press that is supposed to come out and ruin our reputations and say all these things about it -- which happened. Hundreds and hundreds of articles, started by Mother Jones and then followed up with -- and actually they did theirs before the president's list. But right after the president's list, hundreds of articles telling one mistruth, unwanted truth after another after another. It was a swarm coming at us. And we couldn't swat the lies down fast enough, with the Internet and all the repetitions. But then President Obama comes out -- of course, right before then, he comes out with the list, and then comes the audits.
So, when I said who is supposed to be paying attention? Is it just the liberal mess or do we expect the federal agencies to be paying attention? Are they going to come after us, too, the eight of us? I didn't know the answer. I didn't have to wait very long. I found out the answer. Yes, they're coming.
CAVUTO: Do you think that these were just some rogue agents or district heads who decided to look after wealthy conservative groups and/or individuals like you, or do you suspect that they were getting orders from higher up?
VANDERSLOOT: I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
CAVUTO: Well, I mean, I find it odd that -- I remember that list when you popped up on it. And I think I even told you, I said, well, it is just a matter of time, just a matter of time.
Well, he said -- or his campaign said this about the eight of us. "They have less than reputable records and they have been on the wrong side of the law."
None of that was true about me, and I don't think it was true about any of us. My issue probably is, yes, let's see if the IRS targeted us because of that. Did they seek us out because of the list? It came awful fast, and one right after another after another.
But I think the error was made when the president made the list. I don't think he called them up and said, go get them. He doesn't have to. He has got an army of people that want to please him, whether it's his agencies or whether it's the liberal press. All he has to do is make the list. And I think it was egregious.
CAVUTO: But, a year ago, you were Captain Bligh.
Now, you were completely exonerated. And I always think of you and remember the former Labor Secretary Ray Donovan, Ronald Reagan's -- Ray Donovan, who was found innocent of all these -- there were dozens of various charges that were thrown against him. And he famously asked, how do I get my good name back, or that effect.
What about you? Bitter? Angry?
VANDERSLOOT: No. Hopeful that our country will not continue to go down that path, and hopeful that we will have leaders of our country that will make sure that we don't go that path, down that path.
I think it's unfair for President Obama to nail the target up there, and then say, well, if people have to shoot at the target, that now I'm going to go after. I think what he said yesterday, he's going to hold them accountable.
I don't think it's fair. Sure, I hope he does go after them.
CAVUTO: Do you think he will?
VANDERSLOOT: I mean, we will see. We will see.
VANDERSLOOT: But it's unfair maybe. They're doing -- he has to expect they're going to do something when he puts the list up there.
So, my point is, he made the list. He put the target up there. He knew something was going to happen. I don't think he knew exactly what. But sure enough...
VANDERSLOOT: Yes, he did.
CAVUTO: All right, Frank VanderSloot.
Left or right, guys, it can always happen to any one of us, the full weight and power of the most feared agency on Earth going after you. See how you would feel.
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