This is a rush transcript from "The Five," January 30, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle, along with Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld.
It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is "The Five."
GUILFOYLE: Well, we are three days away from the big game, and "The Five" will be kicking off the weekend with you tomorrow from Super Bowl Boulevard in Times Square.
Now, more than 100 million Americans are expected to watch the Denver Broncos take on the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday at 6:30 p.m. More than 400,000 tourists will come to the New York City area.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Boo!
GUILFOYLE: Uplifting, isn't he?
Now, we all know the ads are sometimes the best part of the Super Bowl, and we've got a sneak peek of just a few of them in a moment, but, first, imagine you've always wanted to go to the Super Bowl. Your team was playing. You'd never think you'd go, and something like this happens.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What? What are you talking about?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those are Super Bowl tickets.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, they're not.
We can't do this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can. We fly out on Saturday.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. No. No, this can't happen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it's going to. We're going to the Super Bowl, mom.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Why are you crying?
GUILFOYLE: And the dog is so excited licking her face so happy. That's a dreams can come true. This is a dog moment, happy moment, Dana.
PERINO: I love it. It's a good moment.
GUILFOYLE: You're the resident dog expert.
PERINO: People get overwhelmed by the kindness, OK, and the surprise -- I like a surprise. Greg doesn't like a surprise but I like to give surprises, like -- like to -- what's wrong?
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: I'm just surprised that Greg would have a couple of Super Bowl tickets.
PERINO: I had a surprise. Friends of mine from Seattle made a last- minute decision and Scott and Priscilla Stansel (ph) are coming out on Saturday afternoon. They're going to stay with us and they're going to the game on Sunday.
BECKEL: That's going to be fun. Seattle fans in your house.
PERINO: And my brother-in-law is coming and he is going to the Bronco game with Peter, and Jasper and I are going to watch it by ourselves on the couch.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: The Bronco game?
PERINO: It is a Bronco game.
BOLLING: A little bias, Dana Perino. A little.
PERINO: Don't you think in Seattle, they call it the Seahawks game.
BOLLING: I guess they could. I guess they could.
GUILFOYLE: True blue for her team, I like that. You know why not?
BOLLING: Which is why the colors, of course.
GUILFOYLE: What do you think about the cute commercial, Eric?
BOLLING: The commercial, the -- the surprise? No, it's great. I mean, she was -- she's thrilled.
I think Bob's -- Bob might have the same reaction a little later in the show. I might have something for him.
GUILFOYLE: What? That's a spoiler alert.
BECKEL: I'm sorry. As usual I read in detail my policy stuff, but how did she get these tickets?
PERINO: They bought them.
GUILFOYLE: It's a present. It's a gift, a surprise.
BECKEL: They bought them from who, scalpers?
PERINO: No, there's tickets available.
GUILFOYLE: From her son, to go for her team, you can just purchase them.
BECKEL: Oh, really?
GUTFELD: This is the interesting story is that it's the secondary market from like places like StubHub. There's 14,000 tickets still available making this the least arousing Super Bowl game in history. The scalpers are getting scalped because no one is willing to pay the money, and the reason why, I did some research.
GUILFOYLE: The weather.
GUTFELD: No, 6:00 p.m. on the Hallmark Channel, "A Little House on the Prairie" marathon. It's starting like -- going on all night.
GUILFOYLE: Is that true?
GUTFELD: Melissa Gilbert, Melissa Sue Anderson. It's a Super Bowl of --
PERINO: Melissa Francis.
GUTFELD: It's a Super Bowl of Melissa.
GUILFOYLE: It's a FOX News alert.
BECKEL: That was the most boring show.
PERINO: I loved it. I would run from the bus stop to the house to watch that show.
GUTFELD: Melissa Francis was not on "Little House on the Prairie."
PERINO: She was.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, she was.
GUTFELD: She was?
BECKEL: Excuse me, we're drifting off the topic.
GUTFELD: She was?
GUILFOYLE: She was on "Little House", that's how we say it's funny, like Melissa, Melissa, Melissa Francis.
GUTFELD: Are you kidding?
BOLLING: For real.
GUTFELD: No way.
GUILFOYLE: This is a FOX News alert.
GUTFELD: I thought you guys were ruining my joke.
BOLLING: She wrote a book on how demanding her mother was while she was on that show.
BECKEL: Can we go back to the Super Bowl and not talk about house on the prairie or whatever it was.
GUTFELD: I had no idea.
GUILFOYLE: OK, go ahead.
BECKEL: Well, I was going to say. This is going to -- I think it's going to a great game. You've got the number one ranked defense, first number one offense, first time that's happened in a long time, one. The spread went from one point to three and a half now, which surprised me a little bit, and I think that you're going to find a surprise in the Super Bowl. I think for -- nobody every takes risks in the first Super Bowl.
BOLLING: Are we doing this now? Are we taking a team yet?
BECKEL: "Little House on the Prairie" --
BOLLING: Are we taking our team? You won championship weekend. So, you --
BECKEL: I'm making a prediction, that they're going to -- first play of the game that Manning is going for a bomb.
BOLLING: OK. Are we going to take a team or make our bet?
BECKEL: I don't know.
BOLLING: It's either today or tomorrow. You have a choice because you won championship week.
GUILFOYLE: I'm going for Denver all the way because I'm so angry with Seattle, I'm shaking inside.
PERINO: You like to back a winner.
GUILFOYLE: No doubt.
BOLLING: So, are you picking Denver, too?
GUILFOYLE: Tip of the finger that could have been different.
BECKEL: Of course.
BOLLING: All right. So that means I by default get the Seahawks.
BECKEL: That's right.
BOLLING: Can I tell Bob the secret? Can I tell him the secret?
BECKEL: Don't tell me.
BOLLING: He said no.
GUILFOYLE: Secrets revealed on "The Five".
PERINO: Wait, what is the bet? Like what's going to happen, if Bob wins what do you have to do?
BOLLING: Oh, yes, we get to choose the other person's wardrobe for whatever day. We'll pick a day.
GUILFOYLE: Will you make him wear a puffy shirt? That was kind of like "Little House on the Prairie." It was little a puffy prairie shirt.
PERINO: It was a little small.
BECKEL: He got it from Josh.
GUILFOYLE: All right. You know what, Bob?
BOLLING: It's time for the ladies --
GUILFOYLE: I'm sorry. Here's the deal. So, we talked about the Super Bowl ads. They are very fun and sometimes depending if the Super Bowl is on a snooze alert, you want to enjoy the ads. Everybody talks about, which was your favorite one, who is the most controversial.
So, we've got a peek at a couple of them that are sort of fun. And this one, because the dogs have taken over the show, let's take a look at Budweiser puppy love.
(VIDEO CLIP PLAYS, BUDWEISER AD)
GUILFOYLE: That's amazing. Greg thought so, too. Greg, you liked that a lot. You're making --
GUTFELD: I -- I'm torn because, you know, I'm not watching the game at all. I'm protesting it because I find the names of the teams to be highly offensive. If you look at Broncos, it refers to a feral untrained horse, referring to young men, many of them minorities, as wild rough beasts, to me is disgusting.
The Seahawk, which is basically a bird of prey, which is aggressive and a violent creature, again, it's like calling a man a land maggot. The fact that we're actually showing this game on FOX makes me sick to my stomach.
BECKEL: Why don't you -- you sit home and watch "Little House on the Prairie." and reporting on that on Monday, will you?
GUILFOYLE: There are no words and seriously not enough medication to handle your issues.
OK. So, what did you think of the puppy one? You love it, right? That's the cutest ad. That's the favorite so far.
BOLLING: Yes, it's adorable, but there are a lot of great ads.
GUILFOYLE: Which other ones do you like? We've got two more. Yes, we've got a Volkswagen one.
BOLLING: Can you roll one of those and I want to tell the little trivia on Super Bowl ad pricing.
GUILFOYLE: Punch up the VW (ph).
BECKEL: You're the VW.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What if I told you every time a Volkswagen hits 100,000 miles, a German engineer gets his wing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, dad, and I'm sure at 200,000 miles, rainbows shoot out of their butts.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PERINO: She said shoot.
GUILFOYLE: That's cute?
PERINO: She said shoot.
GUILFOYLE: That's not my favorite run.
BOLLING: The pricing on Super Bowl, I'm sorry, Bob. Almost $4 million per ad. Super Bowl I was $40,000 per ad. So in 48 years, it's gone from 40 grand to 4 million bucks.
BECKEL: What do you think Budweiser paid to produce the ad?
BOLLING: A lot of money.
BECKEL: Several million dollars.
BOLLING: And they have done studies, some of them actually turn into huge, huge profits for the company.
BECKEL: I'm sure. That wing thing isn't going to. That reminds me of Clarence --
GUILFOYLE: That one is a stinker for sure. Nothing against Volkswagen, but you know --
GUTFELD: Don't worry.
PERINO: Or angels.
GUILFOYLE: I like angels and I like the music in the Budweiser one.
Let's take a look at the Noah trailer and we'll get our feedback.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A great flood is coming.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The storm cannot be stopped. It can't be survived.
We have to protect our family.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you want to live?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Protect your mother. Protect them all.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is this the end of everything?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The beginning of everything.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: All right. The "Noah" trailer is so far hands down the best or in a dead heat with the Budweiser.
GUTFELD: Wait, it's not a Super Bowl commercial. It's a movie commercial.
GUILFOYLE: I said trailer, so what's your problem?
GUTFELD: It's not a Super Bowl commercial.
BECKEL: We're cutting you out of the conversation, man.
PERINO: He's right. It's not a Super Bowl commercial.
GUILFOYLE: No, it's a trailer.
GUTFELD: It will show up like that in any season.
PERINO: Technically, Volkswagen's isn't either.
GUTFELD: No, that was -- they do and they put a lot of money into the commercial specifically for the Super Bowl.
BECKEL: Are they not paying money to put that on the air?
GUTFELD: That would have been the same whether in January or July.
GUILFOYLE: Thank you, Bob.
PERINO: It's already been running.
BOLLING: I will tell you, we think about box office where it's sometimes $80 million, $90 million, $100 million in a weekend. This properly placed ad is well worth the $4 million.
BECKEL: I think it's going to go big anyway.
GUILFOYLE: It is and it's going to help it. I mean, what do you think about -- you're happy about that.
BECKEL: Well, listen, I think -- what I'm glad to see is that a lot of faith-based movies, things Greg gets in line for (ph), have been doing very well. I think this is going to do extremely well. And -- what?
GUTFELD: But this is the guy, you know, what's his name, the name of the director?
PERINO: I don't know the director.
GUTFELD: You think this is going to be a religious movie, seriously?
BECKEL: I think it's going to -- well, in some ways, yes.
GUILFOYLE: Darren Aronofsky.
GUTFELD: Darren Aronofsy did a couple of movies that are -- well, "The Wrestler", which was a great film. And the last movie about a --
GUILFOYLE: "Black Swan."
GUTFELD: "Black Swan."
GUILFOYLE: Am I in your head?
GUTFELD: Do you think he's going to be faithful to the Bible?
PERINO: You guys would have been great on "The $25,000 Pyramid."
GUILFOYLE: Well, by the way, I watched "Black Swan." After that, I had to anoint myself with holy water and pray a lot because that movie really scared me.
BECKEL: How about, Greg, on "The Newlyweds"? Just for the fun.
PERINO: I couldn't watch that movie. I watched "The Black Swan."
GUILFOYLE: Get to divorce him right away.
PERINO: I was afraid to watch "The Black Swan" for real. I watched it on the plane, but It was like a woman who was watching it three rows up from me, and I watched it like there was no sound because it was too much.
BECKEL: Did you just say tease? We're just starting talking about the greatest game of the year and we've got to get out.
GUTFELD: But wait, he did "Requiem for a Dream." That's the movie I'm thinking of.
BECKEL: Who cares?
GUTFELD: If anybody has seen "Requiem for a Dream" should worry about "Noah."
BECKEL: Did anybody like talking about Seattle's defense at all? No, of course not.
GUILFOYLE: I'm very against Seattle right now. I'm just not feeling it emotionally. OK, Bob --
PERINO: If they like Super Bowl, they should watch my one more thing.
BECKEL: I think we've got to tease --
GUILFOYLE: Bob, I'm giving you --
BECKEL: I'll tell you, listen. I think this is going to be a great game for a couple of reasons. One, I think the cold weather is a good idea, number one. Number -- because and when they play inside domed stadiums, it's not really football. You've got no wind, you've got no conditions. Placekicker's got a big advantage.
But number one defense -- usually defense beats the offense in a championship.
GUILFOYLE: Great defenses beat -- yes, in championship games, Super Bowls.
BECKEL: Yes, except in this case I think it's going to be much different because I don't think, despite the controversy at cornerback, I don't think Sherman can keep up with a couple of ends with Denver.
GUILFOYLE: Bob's thrown a flag on Sherman, will you respond? Wouldn't that be great?
BOLLING: Looks like I'm the only one here picking the Seahawks now, is that what it's going to be, I have to defend the defense?
BECKEL: Why are you asking him?
BOLLING: Because I don't know who he is picking.
GUTFELD: Look, Animal Planet is having "Finding Bigfoot," further evidence, so I'm for Bigfoot.
BOLLING: Puppy bowl, if it's not going to be Super Bowl, going to be puppy bowl.
BECKEL: If Manning wins this thing, does he go down as the greatest quarterback in history?
BECKEL: You don't think so?
GUILFOYLE: Are we going to do that?
BOLLING: Possibly the greatest quarterback one single season in history.
PERINO: Maybe greatest quarterback of this millennial.
GUILFOYLE: How about one of the greatest?
BECKEL: Has any quarterback won a Super Bowl with two different teams? No, right?
PERINO: No, that's correct, Bob. You are correct.
GUTFELD: I have irritable bowl syndrome.
GUILFOYLE: That's every day and then you eat too much Chinese food.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Up next, MSNBC tries to taunt conservatives with an offensive tweet, referring to an ad that's going to air during the Super Bowl. The outrage over that ahead.
And later the ad you won't be seeing during the game on Sunday because it was banned. It features actress Scarlett Johansson and we're going to show it to you, coming up next.
BECKEL: Talking over Greg's intro.
GUTFELD: MSNBC, the network for grad students with head lice, gleefully tweeted a prediction that right wingers would despise a new ad featuring a bi-racial family. Their evidence: All those righties who mock biracial families, like these guys.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY, MSNBC: There on Governor Romney's knee is his
adopted grandson -- who is an African-American, adopted African-American
child, Kieran Romney. Any captions for this one?
PIA GLENN, PANELIST: One of these things is not like the other...
DEAN OBEIDALLAH, PANELIST: I think this picture is great. It really sums up
the diversity of the Republican Party.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: Oh, wow, I'm sorry, those aren't conservatives at all. That's MSNBC, your one-stop shot for master race-baiting.
The tweet has since been Bashired, removed by MSNBC, sent to parts
unknown. But you must love, you've got to love how the right has
responded, not with outrage but with facts and with faces. Led by Michelle Malkin, dozens of conservatives happily tweeted photos of their own
biracial families to the nasty network.
That's how you kill a race baiter with light and truth. And let's face it, no one else is going to do it, not "The Daily Show," CNN, "Time" or "Newsweek", if they still did even exist. Bravo to those who crushed this bigoted bug so swiftly.
Finally, what's with all the imagined hatred by the left? They claim
there's a war on women as they wage war on women, threatening gruesome
violence against Republican females like Sarah Palin and Cathy McMorris
Rodgers. They assume terrorists are Tea Partiers when it turns out they
are just another brand of anti-West campus radicals, and they ridicule the
right as bigots as they stereotype so viciously.
Congratulations, leftists, turns out you were the villains you were
K.G., I've got to hand it to Michelle Malkin because, you know, she'd gone on Twitter. I'm tired of outrage. I like action. Send pictures of your family to MSNBC. Made them look really stupid.
GUILFOYLE: I like her. You know, she's a provocative but in a thoughtful way that makes sense. I mean, this was something that she put together. I think it speaks volumes, they say, picture is worth a thousand words.
There you go, take a look at this, beautiful family and, you know, makes a lot of sense. That's why she connects with people.
And what do you say if you're MSNBC? I think you feel awful about the choices you're making and what their colleagues have done there.
GUTFELD: Bob, they have -- MSNBC has apologized, Phil Griffin has apologized.
But why -- I mean -- why should they apologize if this is something that they kind of do a lot of? I mean --
BECKEL: I don't know. I mean, I -- I happen to think calling somebody a bigot, given my background and my dad's background in the civil rights, it's the lowest form of conversation you can have. I'm just appalled by it.
You know, particularly are so many kids out there that need a home. I mean, you know, I don't care who adopts them, as long as it's a good family.
BECKEL: And I -- so I give people credit and the idea of mocking it. I mean, you know, I took my share of shots at Romney, but I never would have done that about that. I mean, you just have -- you give the left a bend and most of the left don't believe that, in fact, and I find it appalling.
GUILFOYLE: But what he's saying is a larger issue, which is that MSNBC, this is like recidivism. It's not a one-off event. They are doing this. This has been multiple instances and that's why it's a problem.
BECKEL: We have spent more time talking about NBC than anybody in America combined. So I don't know why we need to spend a whole lot of time on them.
Look, they got -- you cannot have a network where you have that kind of thinking and where you allow someone like Greg Gutfeld who is very good at doing it, I don't blame him for that, by saying it's the leftists. Well, it's not all the leftists.
PERINO: But the entire left spends all of their time attacking one news network, FOX News, and I think the exposure of hypocrisy on the left is actually very refreshing for a lot of people.
Michelle Malkin, she's not afraid to do it. Takes a lot of different communicators, all sorts of things to build a party, build a movement, but she is completely unafraid, and we're better off for it.
BECKEL: Conservatives attack MSNBC all the time, too.
BOLLING: Yes, there's a little difference here. So, Ed Schultz attacks a conservative, Martin Bashir attacks a conservative, Melissa Harris Perry a Republican, Wagner attacks another Republican, and Phil Griffin has MSNBC has this blanket all righties and makes that shot and says, oops, we're sorry.
This is -- this is a serial offender here going on, Bob. It's not like one of them does it and they all kind of say, OK, we're not going to let that happen again. It's happening and is consistent, but Phil Griffin has -- he kind of has a responsibility here to make some changes.
By the way, that network is one step out of the scrap yard anyway so no matter how much Rust-Oleum you spray on it, it's still on its way there anyway.
But the point is, just oops, we're sorry, we didn't mean to have that tweet. He needs some blanket housekeeping. Martin Bashir, he allowed to step down, he didn't fire him, allowed him to step down. Ed Schultz still has a show. Harris-Perry is probably getting promoted and Wagner got a spot at 4:00. I mean, they are promoting these people.
PERINO: Alec Baldwin got fired.
BOLLING: I think it's also fair to say on the other side that there are some people at this table and around our own network who have been -- said some of the rudest and crudest things about the president of the United States. So, I think -- MSNBC is way over the line, but let's not say this is a preserve of the left, come on.
GUTFELD: But, Bob, I think the point is --
GUILFOYLE: What did we say that was rude and crude about the president?
BECKEL: Oh, come on.
GUTFELD: Oh, I've said a lot.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, that's you.
GUTFELD: But the weird thing about MSNBC, if they traffic in making fun of people who are different, it isn't -- aren't they supposed to be the people that defend people who are different, but they are the worst at it?
BOLLING: Big tent, remember?
BOLLING: The inclusive, right, the inclusive network -- unless you're from the right and then you're not included.
BECKEL: Let me tell you, if my dad were around and alive today, he would be the first one out in front bashing this stuff. Would have been appalled by it, and I don't blame him.
GUTFELD: But you know what? It's not just MSNBC. You have "The New York Times" who basically referred to Cathy McMorris Rodgers as a Stepford wife for his response, which is a cliched stereotype one uses to describe the typical Republican woman, you know, the boring, bland housewife. They can get away with it because they're always around the same people saying the same damn things.
BECKEL: Are you talking about the woman that gave the Republican State of the Union response?
BECKEL: I would call her void of any serious proposals. That's about the nicest thing I can say.
BOLLING: You know how hard that speech is?
BECKEL: It was a terrible speech saying nothing.
BOLLING: Hold on, you have President Obama walking in, everyone's high-fiving.
PERINO: You mean the State of the Union.
BOLLING: The State of the Union --
BECKEL: The woman who did the response.
BOLLING: So, 108 minutes on this, you know, 85 standing ovations and then somehow has to have the opposing view for 10 minutes in a quiet studio. That is really a -- you know what? The Republicans --
GUILFOYLE: They shouldn't do it.
PERINO: Actually, Bob --
BOLLING: -Stop doing it.
GUILFOYLE: It's not a fair fight.
PERINO: That was your view of it. I've heard from a lot of women that I didn't expect to that said -- this morning at the dog park that said hey, I thought her speech was really good. This is a mom, an independent- minded person, lives in New York, probably votes Democrat but might be open-minded for the next go around.
So I don't think it's fair to her to be called named by the "New York Times" and MSNBC just because she might not know what a carter cutlery knife is if it stabbed her in the leg that other get people written about in "Vogue" magazine.
BECKEL: I'm not going to go too far, because I had a comment of Bobby Jindal when he did his response to the State of the Union.
PERINO: They're not good, they're never good, but it doesn't -- to compare it to the president's speech. The president's speech by -- by far was considered empty of any serious proposals.
BOLLING: I would say next year, GOP, Reince Priebus, let it go.
GUILFOYLE: But it's not a fair fight. It's not set up or staged to be.
BECKEL: Ad what Eric said is right. Why in the world they demand to have that, when you can't get anywhere near the pomp and circumstance of the rest of it. It makes no sense whatsoever.
GUTFELD: All right.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Well --
GUTFELD: We've got to go.
PERINO: All right.
GUILFOYLE: Moving on up.
GUTFELD: I'm still debating to read this tweet from Laura Lavitis (ph), but it's so disgusting.
PERINO: Well, it's typical of what they say.
GUTFELD: This is the woman that said she wanted to rip out the uterus of Cathy McMorris Rodgers and do something to it.
BECKEL: I know you didn't want to say that.
GUTFELD: But I just did. But it's just the point that we actually have to avoid what the left says because it's so repulsive.
BECKEL: Don't say -- stop saying the left.
GUILFOYLE: Like we didn't read the Bashir stuff. Yes.
BECKEL: You make it sound like we're a big crowd marching in lockstep. It's just not the case.
Most left people that I know find that stuff on MSNBC deplorable, and there are not many people who watch it. If it was so reflective of the left, you think there would be a bigger audience?
GUTFELD: Yes, maybe.
All right. Coming up, will a third Bush run for president in 2016? Governor Jeb answers next.
PERINO: So will he or won't he? That's the question people have been asking for years about former governor of Florida, Jeb Bush. For a while, the smart betting was on him deciding against running for president, but yesterday he reopened that door, just a crack.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JEB BUSH (R), FORMER FLORIDA GOVERNOR: Well, I'm considering -- I'm going to think about it later, so I don't wake up each day saying what am I going to do to make this decision? I'm deferring the decision to the right time which is later this year.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And your mother said he's qualified but I hope he doesn't run.
BUSH: Yes. She promised me she wouldn't keep saying this, but she's 89 years old, and if you have elderly parents or grandparents, you know that they speak their mind. There's not much strong between thinking and speaking. I love her.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PERINO: So, Kimberly, about two weeks ago I thought all signs pointed to Jeb Bush deciding he was going to sit this one out, and there's been developments over the last three weeks. Maybe he's taking another look at it.
GUILFOYLE: If anybody is on the inside, it's Jasper.
PERINO: Could be Jasper, that's true.
GUILFOYLE: Imagine that, a couple weeks ago you were getting an indicator in a different direction. I'll tell you, been a big fan of his for many, many years even before 43 came on the presidential scene and I just think he would do tremendous service to our country. I love his focus on education. I think he's got a great innovative approach and a great heart and certainly a wealth of experience and what it takes to be president. Just, you know, coming from that family. I wouldn't begrudge him because others have come before him.
GUILFOYLE: Eric, you want to say anything?
BOLLING: I will say -- I will say this. We -- Kimberly and I both went to see him speak at the convention.
PERINO: At the convention.
BOLLING: Yes. Very compelling, very interesting stuff, like you said on education.
PERINO: But he does have a significant mountains to climb, not just hills to climb on the right and, Bob, across the country. Your assessment is what?
BECKEL: I think he is by far, by far the strongest candidate the Republicans can put forward and I'll tell you why, and this is just as a political analyst.
GUILFOYLE: And you're not saying this to get more Dana Perino pot roast, are you?
BECKEL: Not at all. But as good as it is.
First of all, he'll do what the Republicans better do or they will put themselves in the dust bin of history.
GUILFOYLE: Bridge the gap.
BECKEL: He can get Hispanic votes.
BECKEL: He's married to a Hispanic. His brother got 45 percent of the Hispanic vote. Every other yahoo in the Republican potential candidate doesn't understand how to talk to Hispanics. They alienate them.
This guy can get 40 percent or better, one. Two, he takes away from the Democrats the most important swing state or one of the most important swing states and that is Florida. He will win Florida going away.
And the my guess is if he's really smart he's going to pick somebody from one of the three states that will put the lock down for a Republican candidate, Ohio, Michigan or Pennsylvania.
I just don't understand why the Republicans don't realize this. They've got the best candidate --
GUILFOYLE: Because they wanted some time to pass.
BECKEL: And the other thing he had said, a friend of mine, a former governor who knows him, said he had enough sense to say he's worried very much about the right wing of the Republican Party and he's right. He's right on the right.
PERINO: Anybody is -- whoever the Republicans put forward is going to have to try to bring people together.
Your thoughts on Jeb Bush?
GUTFELD: You know, the big picture for me is he's -- hooray, he's a good guy and Bob made a lot of sense there, things I didn't think about before.
I keep saying where is the Republican Party Obama? Obama was a candidate that ignited a party enough that they tossed Hillary and Bill aside like an intern's dress. The Republicans need a candidate that creates actual blood flow to all the extremities or you're going to end up with eight years of a pant suit presidency. Because --
PERINO: Either way.
GUTFELD: Either way. That's true. It's like maybe -- it's --
GUILFOYLE: That's what Bob is saying.
GUTFELD: I don't see the Republican Obama.
BECKEL: I don't think that there is one right now. Let's remember nobody knew about the Obama Obama until he got a chance to be --
GUILFOYLE: Well, who wants a Republican Obama? I want somebody who will get something done with qualifications and experience.
GUILFOYLE: How about winning on the merits? How about --
BECKEL: -- the Republicans can't win. I'm just telling you this guy can win. He scares me to death. I hope he doesn't run because I think it's going to make it very difficult for the Democrats to beat him.
GUILFOYLE: I think you're being honest.
BECKEL: And I would die for a right winger getting nominated.
BOLLING: Quick thought is I think Greg is right, you need that uniting candidate. He or she may not be out there yet, but as it is right now, it may not even be the candidate, it may be the Republican Party needs to get together.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, you have to be united.
BOLLING: So, you win your primary being far right and you have to tack far left towards the center to try and win a general election.
BECKEL: The tack is a lot bigger than it's ever been.
BOLLING: The divide is far.
PERINO: Meantime, Hillary Clinton -- she might not even have a primary at all.
BECKEL: She will.
PERINO: So, then, you won't have to go left to tack back to the center.
BECKEL: Let me tell you --
PERINO: We can talk about this for hours but we've got to go.
BECKEL: There's no way that a candidate with a party that has an open seat is not going to have a primary opponent and she will have one.
PERINO: All right. Next, we're going to go.
BECKEL: We've got to go?
PERINO: Jimmy Kimmel hit the streets to find out what people thought of the State of the Union. Well, they are telling me we've got to go so we can talk about these other things, the State of the Union, and he got lots of interesting answers. That's next.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you think that there was too much product placement in the State of the Union?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, that kind of surprises me, kind of cheapens politics a little bit.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, did you see any of it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw most -- I'd say half of it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, you're not lying about seeing half of it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
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PERINO: Stay tuned for more when "The Five" returns.
GUILFOYLE: Dios mio.
BOLLING: Welcome back, everybody, to today's fastest seven, a Jimmy, a Jerry and Joe.
You know the drill, three entertaining stories, seven energetic minutes, one great enthusiastic host.
First up, Jimmy Kimmel hit the pavement for a man in the street response to the state of the union. The problem is the clowns were asked before the speech.
PERINO: Oh, dear.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What did you think of the State of the Union last night?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was awesome. I loved it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What specifically was good about it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just that he was -- just what everybody was talking about.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Which is what?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know. I haven't even seen it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What did you think about Obama faking the heart attack at the end?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that was more for shock value, not anything or what have you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, they did get shocked when they brought the defibrillator.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Exactly.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh.
BOLLING: Greg, got to love it.
GUTFELD: It never fails to entertain, but it just shows that people don't want to fail on TV so if it means like making stuff up, no different than Piers Morgan.
PERINO: Or Bob.
GUTFELD: I wasn't going to say Bob.
PERINO: Oh, the Beckel Institute I was thinking.
GUILFOYLE: Highly regarded, highly regarded.
BOLLING: How about the one guy, like, I'm lying?
PERINO: I just wonder if this is a little bit mean.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, it's kind mean.
PERINO: It's kind of mean.
BOLLING: What? They have to agree to be on TV.
GUILFOYLE: You're getting caught on the spot and probably embarrassed to say they didn't watch it or they don't know, a big chance to be on TV.
BECKEL: And I don't want to play the race card but they might want to mix this up a little bit and -- two-thirds of them are black.
BOLLING: No, no, no. Look, take a look, look. You seeing. White there.
BECKEL: Santa Claus gets asked.
BOLLING: From Jimmy to Jerry Springer, here's Jerry Springer digging deep to expose his liberal slant.
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JERRY SPRINGER, TV HOST: Why would you ever hate Barack Obama? Is there a human being on the planet earth that wouldn't want Barack Obama as a son? I mean, look at what this young man has achieved and what he's done on his own and how he's become this great leader and done these things.
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BOLLING: Go ahead, K.G.
PERINO: And then he threw his chair across the room.
GUILFOYLE: Are you going to read that?
BOLLING: Don't read that.
GUILFOYLE: You're not going to right? I don't think you should read that.
BOLLING: I wrote it but I won't read it.
Go ahead. So, your thoughts on Jerry saying oh, what a great guy.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, you know, that's his personal opinion, OK, Jerry. I think he really does admire the president. The president has accomplished a tremendous amount in a short period of time. How is that for a positive statement?
PERINO: Very nice.
BOLLING: Bob? If you had a son, you want him to be Barack?
BECKEL: I think history will treat Barack Obama extremely well, and I agree with Jerry Springer. I think he's a terrific president and I think he's got a guy -- he was in the state legislature in Illinois and four years later, he's president of the United States. That's part of the problem, maybe, but the guy knows how to win.
BOLLING: You're talking about Jerry Springer?
BOLLING: Are you talking about Jerry Springer?
BECKEL: Well, Jerry knows how to shock you.
BOLLING: All right. I'm not sure I want to take my political advice from Springer.
PERINO: I just surprised he didn't pick up the chair and throw it across the room at the end of it.
BOLLING: Does he still have a show?
GUTFELD: I don't know.
GUTFELD: No. I don't know.
PERINO: I'm done.
GUTFELD: I was going to say that he described how Obama got elected is that he was likable, and if you're likable enough, people won't press one for more details so you have ObamaCare, you have unemployment, division, unrest all over the world but at least he's a great guy.
BOLLING: Yes, great guy.
All right. Finally, let's make this perfectly clear. I care about the planet. As proof I wanted you to see this public service issue announcement from superstar Scar Jo. Call me a tree hugger if you want, so be it, because if locking arms with Scar Jo is tree hugging, I guess I'm a tree hugger.
GUILFOYLE: Oh my gosh. This is like --
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SCARLETT JOHANSSON, ACTRESS: Like most doctors, my real job is saving the word. Start with plain water, add bubbles, mix in the perfect flavor. Look, a soda that's better for you and all of us. Less sugar, less bottles.
If only I could make this message go viral.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa, whoa, you're doing it, Scarlett. Yes, you're doing it, changing the world one sip at a time.
JOHANSSON: Sorry, Coke and Pepsi.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, yes, you've done it. SodaStream.
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BOLLING: Oh, yes. Sodastream, Bobby.
GUILFOYLE: Bob's a little worked up right now.
BECKEL: I'd buy it. I -- I didn't think it was -- it was extremely well done. Her acting was terrific and her expression, you know. It was expressive art right there at the end. I thought -- I got the point.
BOLLING: Get the point. Save the planet, fewer plastic bottles.
PERINO: I've had Sodastream for years. I love it. It makes me drink more water.
GUILFOYLE: Do you really?
PERINO: Yes, I use it every day.
GUILFOYLE: You didn't give me any, offer me any.
GUTFELD: Why was it rejected? Because of the -- the Israel thing or what?
BECKEL: Right there, that's why they rejected.
BOLLING: Let's be perfectly honest about this. I think there's a Coke/Pepsi war. Coke/Pepsi. I think Pepsi is sponsoring -- is a big sponsor of the Super Bowl so they said, "Let's not."
PERINO: But you bring up the point about there is a controversy because Sodastream is owned by an Israeli company that's operating in the West Bank in a settlement, and there's controversy over that. And she actually resigned from Oxfam International because of that.
BECKEL: I know what this is. You -- you pour -- I got one of those from Hannity.
GUILFOYLE: Yay, Hannity.
BOLLING: I should try it sometime.
BECKEL: It's good.
GUILFOYLE: Hannity got you one?
BECKEL: Yes, he gave me one.
GUILFOYLE: Did Hannity give you one?
PERINO: No, I bought mine.
BOLLING: They're telling me to wrap. K.G., quick thought.
GUILFOYLE: I want a Sodastream from Hannity, that's it. Did I make myself clear?
BOLLING: Very clear.
BOLLING: Stick ahead, Eric Holder finally makes a decision about whether he'll seek the death penalty against the Boston bomber, and Bob is not happy with it, next.
BECKEL: Today Attorney General Eric Holder announced the Justice Department will seek the death penalty against Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev -- is that -- however you pronounce it.
PERINO: Good enough.
BECKEL: Thank you. The blast in April killed three and wounded 260 others. Since the federal death penalty was restored in '88 attorney generals have sought 500 cases and won them. Of those only three have resulted in execution.
I'm going to start this, because I know it's going to be extremely unpopular. I'm against the death penalty. I'm even against the death penalty in this case.
Let me refer to my friends out there who are people of faith as I am. You keep referring to the Bible as being justification for the death penalty. The Old Testament called for the following death penalty. This is what you get a death penalty for: cursing your parents, failure to confine a dangerous animal, sex with an animal, working on the Sabbath, adultery, homosexual prostitution, lying before a woman's virginity.
Now you want -- Jesus never, never talked with the death penalty. He talked about he who has no sin cast the first stone. And for all the conservatives out there, I applaud one of the most conservative in the country who opposes the death penalty because it gives the state the ultimate, awesome power of any fascist state. They should not have a death penalty.
Do you want to do something to these people? Instead of putting them to sleep with some easy shots, put them all on an island together and make them suffer for the rest of their lives. But the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment, and it should not be allowed.
BOLLING: And it's the law.
BECKEL: I know it's the law.
BOLLING: So in this case don't follow the law. But Obama care, which may or may not be...
BECKEL: You're a practicing Roman Catholic. Your church is against this.
BOLLING: I know my church is against this. However, I wouldn't mind seeing this guy go away.
By the way, do you know it costs more to keep someone alive -- no, to administer the death penalty than to keep them alive for the rest of their life?
GUTFELD: Well, the...
GUILFOYLE: But that shouldn't be -- that shouldn't be a deterrent. The cost shouldn't be the determining factor. It's whether or not the punishment is suitable. And unfortunately, we're experiencing a death of punishment in this country where it's unpopular to not, you know, create a Club Med for prisoners...
BECKEL: Study after study proves there's no deterrent about the death penalty.
GUILFOYLE: ... like you said about Arpaio.
BECKEL: No deterrent of the death penalty.
GUILFOYLE: I don't know where you get your information.
GUTFELD: Deters the guy that dies. Deters the guy that dies. That's the beauty of the death penalty. It's 100 percent effective when it kills...
BECKEL: No, it's not. How about the people that get -- how about the people that get killed who aren't guilty?
GUTFELD: I know. They use that argument a lot. But here's the problem here. He is guilty, and we know it. He's on film. So we know he should die, if anything to get his groupies just in pure misery unless, and I agree with you -- let's spare him but make his punishment sitting in a room 24/7, staring at the footage of the suffering victims. How about that?
GUILFOYLE: But that? No, that would be cruel and unusual punishment.
BECKEL: Fine with me. I'd castrate him. I'd do whatever you need.
GUILFOYLE: You know what, Bob? You don't make any sense here. So you're going to castrate someone, put him in a room, make them watch videos, but you don't think that's cruel and unusual. But putting someone to death in a humane way, you think is -- is...
BECKEL: It runs completely counter to my faith, and I think it runs counter to what human nature should be.
PERINO: Can I make just one statement on this?
PERINO: I admire your principle when it comes to being pro-life. I do wonder, however -- the Bible doesn't contemplate domestic terror attacks on American soil. The Bible gives you advice and guidance as to how to administer your laws.
If you believe that, Bob, then are you against President Obama's drone strike program?
BECKEL: His what?
PERINO: His drone strike program, which targets and kills terrorists.
GUILFOYLE: The death penalty. Yes.
PERINO: That is the death penalty overseas.
BECKEL: If you consider it a war -- I don't consider it that way. But anyway, look, the other thing about the faith thing, the New Testament, they will say -- people will cite it and say, it does agree with the death penalty. But...
GUILFOYLE: Right. Well, read Professor Blecker's book, Robert Blecker, "The Death of Punishment."
BECKEL: I've read a lot about this, and I still oppose it. I know I'm going to get thousands of tweets.
"One More Thing" is up next.
GUILFOYLE: Love the banjo. All right. It's time now for "One More Thing." We begin with you, Greg.
GUTFELD: Time for this.
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GUTFELD: I hate these people!
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GUTFELD: All right. Super Bowl, if you're going to be watching it at a bar, do not order a mojito. I hate mojito drinkers, because it slows down the work at the bar. Keep it simple. Beer, wine, whiskey, vodka. Bloody Mary's are the most -- as complex as you can get. I don't want you standing in front of me ordering a mojito.
BECKEL: That's right. You've got to...
GUILFOYLE: At the -- at the bars you go to, do they even have those drinks? Please.
GUTFELD: No, they don't.
GUILFOYLE: All right, fine. All right. Dana, go.
PERINO: I asked today my fellow Bronco fans back in Denver to send me any pictures to show how they were getting ready. Here's one from Rhonda and all the kids in their special gear. We have that picture? There we are. She said it took an hour to figure out how to put this on Twitter, so I wanted to put it on.
Cecilia, 78-year-old grandma, she for the first time ever did colored nails, and she got her red and blue nails. There we go.
Raelynn (ph) -- you've got to love this -- with her yellow Lab on the balcony in Bronco territory with the flag.
And the last one is at the Denver Airport, the sign for Omaha, Nebraska, has got the big Omaha with exclamation point, which is Peyton Manning's charity. So that was...
GUILFOYLE: So in other news, Amanda Knox, if you think this is still going on, it is -- was now found guilty in the trial over in Italy. She's in the U.S. She's not going to be extradited, let's be honest about that, and she says she's going to appeal this verdict.
PERINO: Those are some outfits.
GUILFOYLE: Let's go.
BOLLING: I'm bowing my time to Bob. He's got something important.
BECKEL: I just read this story that 17 states now are closing prisons. The largest world prison population, which is the United States, is now becoming the smallest. The last two years those states that have closed them have saved half a billion. And finally, finally, we're beginning to realize putting a lot of people who use drugs into jail doesn't do any good.
PERINO: And crime rate's gone down.
BECKEL: And crime rate's gone down.
BOLLING: Quickly, outside earlier today, Cleatus, the FOX Sports mascot, take a look. There he is. He's doing "The Five." See the hand.
PERINO: Yes. He's kind of camouflaged.
BOLLING: Everyone loves "The Five."
BECKEL: Is that guy a real guy?
BOLLING: In an outfit. Yes.
PERINO: Someone inside.
What's the surprise?
GUILFOYLE: We're going to see you tomorrow from Super Bowl Boulevard in Times Square, and "Special Report" is next. See you guys tomorrow.
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