This is a rush transcript from "The Five," December 27, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle, along with Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling, Dana Perino, and Andrea Tantaros.
It's 5 o'clock in New York City. And this is "The Five."
GUILFOYLE: So, here's a question: is religion making a comeback in America?
Well, it seems like people are hungry for something beyond what is offered in the materialistic, sexually charged culture of what dominates our lives.
For example, Pope Francis was named "Time Magazine's" 2013 Person of the Year. Bill O'Reilly's "Killing Jesus" is a "New York Times" bestseller this year. And "Duck Dynasty" and the faith of the Robertson family has captured the hearts of tens of millions of Americans. And the History Channel's mini-series "The Bible" was a huge hit.
Now, Hollywood is now catching up with upcoming movie "Noah" starring Russell Crowe. The epic film is based on the biblical story of Noah's ark.
Take a look at the trailer.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You must trust that he speaks in a way that you can understand.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw water. Death by water.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A great flood is coming. We build a vessel to survive the storm. We build an arc.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mama --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you want?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't know you're king. There isn't anything for you here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have men at my back and you stand alone and defy me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not alone.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: I already want to see it. "Noah" hits theaters nationwide this spring. It looks like a fantastic production and, of course, Russell Crowe always delivered.
Eric, what do you think? Religion making a comeback?
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Yes, I certainly hope so. I wear my religion on my sleeve. You all know it. The whole thing with the candle.
It's great. Thank you for that. It's great to see Russell Crowe, like one of the top actors, making a movie like that. I'm just thrilled to see. It looks fantastic as well. "The Bible", the mini-series, was on fire. Bill O'Reilly's "Killing Jesus."
It's great. Fantastic. I'm thrilled about it. Thank you for that.
GUILFOYLE: But not doing it for perhaps the right reason or doing it for financial reasons, because there is the need, there is the desire for people to have more faith and spirituality in their life, Bob.
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Yes, I think it goes beyond just movies and books. It -- look at the number of evangelical Christians. The number is growing remarkable, the number of mega-churches that are growing. Despite of the East Coast, but most of the rest of the country, church attendance is up.
But I think a lot of this is because this is a time when people is -- there is no order in the world. There just seems to be -- like it used where things were much more predictable. Things come at you so fast and things seem to be out of control a whole lot of ways. I don't want to get into politics here but just in life in general.
And I think this is a grounding for people and I think that's an important.
GUILFOYLE: So, it's an encouraging sign, I think, for humanity and certainly, you know, in this country where we see gravitation toward spirit and faith.
I mean, Dana, how do you account for it?
PERINO: Well, I agree that I think that it's growing. I hope that is true. I think there are many religions are growing, Buddhism included.
Islam is growing.
And then, you know, there are consequences for extremism and we see that in certain places and then you have a fight of good versus evil. And there are peaceful Muslims and we continue to encourage them to try to speak out so we can live peaceably together.
I also think that if you look at, you know, Charles Krauthammer's book, we've talked about it a lot, "Things That Matter".
PERINO: One of the things he talks about there is that the big questions about why are we here, how do we get here, what are we doing, what are we supposed -- what's next? What's after this? Is this life the only thing we have?
All of those big questions are still the things that matter to people, the root cause. We have fun talking about Hollywood and politics, but, really, that base -- who you are in your core is the biggest and most important question that all of us ask, sometime in our life.
GUILFOYLE: Andrea, this is a good sign for our country --
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Yes, I think people are so hungry for something more edifying and something more hopeful. So, 24 hour news is more negative than positive. We do positive stories on the show.
But I do think people are hungry because there is so much other stuff out there, right? There's so much smut out there. There's so much crass material. When people see a message of hope and they start to see these biblical stories which are truly amazing, it makes them feel good and they are hungry for it, and they're not getting it in schools. They're not getting it in elementary school, up to high school and in the universities.
So they are searching for something bigger.
In my one more thing, I talk about this "New York Times" articles later about the keys to happiness and one of the keys is values. And I think that's what's lacking in society, when people see it in front of them, they're very encouraged and they flock to it.
Also, they're going to be doing a sequel of "The Bible". That was announced just last week, because it broke records, 100 million viewers.
So, that's coming out in 2015.
I also do find it a little interesting that in this country, we have to go to Australia or other countries to find real manly man actors like Russell Crowe and Mel Gibson, "The Passion of the Christ." It's like who are we going to cast now? Jonah Hill? I mean, the real men really -- they're not here.
BOLLING: So, Ands, you point out there's a lot of the other, the smut and whatnot. But there's also another other, and it's the atheist.
They're trying to stifle free speech. They're trying to, you know, clamp down on the free practice of religion, and when you see are a movie like this, it basically says we'll fight back. You know, we have a right to talk about it, to practice it, to be entertained with it.
And I think it is good thing that movie houses are willing to put up the money, it's probably a $50 million, $60 million, or maybe even more,
$100 million movie budget that they have to outlay in advance because it's a risk -- $125 million, OK, good, $125 million.
You don't see a lot it. You see a lot of $125 million or $200 million movies like "Fast and Furious" and things blowing up and people getting shot and people dying, but you don't see a lot of these types of movies, and I think it's a positive sign.
BECKEL: Yes, I think that's right. I mean, the other thing I'd say off the Krauthammer thinking is that the baby boomer generation, which was the largest generations, is now being replaced by the millennials. But it was the largest generation, 80 million strong, they all are coming now to that period in their life when they begin to realize that there is an end.
You know, you never thought there was an end. And it gets people to stop and think about, well, is there someplace I'm going after this?
And I call it a big black wall. I mean, I'm a person of great faith and a lot of my friends who were not come up to me and say, when they hear about me talking about my faith, say, do you really believe all of that stuff in the bible? I said, well, yes, actually, I do. But I said, here's the choice, if I'm wrong, what difference does it make? I'm going to be a speck of dust someplace. If I'm right, it's going to be a marvelous after- life, you know?
So, you ought to have faith in doing that. But I think a lot of this is being driven by the demographics in the country, too.
BOLLING: What's the big black wall?
BECKEL: The big black wall is the end, brother. That is the end.
That's either cremation or it's in the ground.
GUILFOYLE: I think it's salvation, a big light.
BOLLING: A blue wall.
BECKEL: Well, if you are faith, you look at it as a white passage.
But if you're not, you see a big black wall just ending right there.
PERINO: I think there are a couple of other reasons, especially if church attendance is -- I won't be surprised if you see that on the rise in certain places, especially because one of the things that churches provide for you is fellowship. A chance to be with other people and a chance for sharing, where we are on our electronics all of the time, so you can live solitary lives and as you said, social media is a wonderful tool, but it's not the same as human interaction. And I think for that fellowship at churches and the relationships you can build there and giving back and what makes you happy is giving. That's one of the reasons that we all like the Christmas season so much.
And the last thing I'd say on this is for -- for me this year, to be able to witness the people that volunteer on the mercy ships, these are true missionaries. And one of the things I've asked a nurse there, she's been volunteering there for many years. She met her husband on the ship.
They have a little baby now, and they're on the ship. I asked her, when people say, gosh, I would love to go and do something like what you're doing but -- when you are recruiting them, and trying to maybe recruit to come to work on the Mercy Ships, how do you erase that word "but"?
How do you -- and she said she's a person of great faith as well. She just said she's never really had the doubt. She said that every time it looks like they are running low on money or they're not going to be able to pay their ships fees, something happens and God always provides for them.
It was amazing to see how they treat one another and how they treat others.
BOLLING: There's a term for that believers, it's called an "on-time God." Meaning, it's -- you don't see it coming but he's always on time.
It's always the right time.
BECKEL: You know, there's also -- I not only go to church every week, but I also go to three AA meetings a week, and that is a fellowship where -
BECKEL: It's very spiritual and it is where you do interaction. We don't allow Twitter in AA meetings where you get thrown out.
But I think there is that human bonding that takes place when you have people in the room together seeking a goal -- and AA, it's to stay sober.
In church, it is to get a stronger relationship with God.
BECKEL: And the more you can build your relationship with God, the stronger your faith is going to become, you know?
GUILFOYLE: You're having a life heavily on your faith and very courageous to overcome very serious obstacles in your life.
BECKEL: Listen, I'll tell you, I just have a quick story. You said on-time God. I was down to $9.50. I was three years sober, I was living on a farm, getting divorced, I had no money and I was living at this place a mile back in the dirt road. And one day, the only thing in the mail box had been junk mail.
I went to mail box and one day and there was -- after I prayed to God, I said, I hate to ask you this, I don't really believe yet, but if you could help me out, I could use some dough. (INAUDIBLE) to pray.
But I went out to that mailbox and sure enough, a guy that owed me
$25,000 for 15 years ago sent a $20,000 to me.
TANTAROS: There is so many stories like that, and it's almost like God has to keep teaching you trust. It's a lesson that, you know, he almost brings you down to your lowest point.
GUILFOYLE: To restore your faith, yes.
TANTAROS: And then he always delivers.
You know, when people -- when we get into religious debates and there is an excellent book about this. Liar, Lord and I'm forgetting the third one, why would he have died for a lie? And that's what I always think, too, Bob. If you look at and you read the stories in the bible, why would anyone do what he did for a lie?
To Dana, to your point about a community, that is what I think was the foundation of the churches in this country. And we have gotten away from it. Like diners in this country, people came together, they're like a community.
BECKEL: They are mostly Greeks.
TANTAROS: Well, but the community rallies in the diner. That's where people used to get their news and I think people have gotten away of that sense of church and community and they are hungry for that back, but they're not getting in social media and they're not getting it in every life in a Starbucks with their iPhone in and they're just wrapped in themselves.
BOLLING: There is one force that's brand new that is actually helping exactly what you're talking about out right now. Pope Francis, he is really a uniting force.
BOLLING: Whether you believe in some of the things he says, he is really getting a lot of people who weren't particularly attached to the church, coming back to the kitchen.
BOLLING: Reengaged, absolutely.
GUILFOYLE: And in Latin America as well, they've seen the numbers go up.
Dana, you referenced about attendance in the church. You know, I'd like to see some more of that in this country. I think it would help unite us because at times, I think we are too divided.
BECKEL: You know, I think about my own faith, Christianity, which we all share here. If it's not real, if Jesus Christ did not die for our sins on that cross, it's been one of the big con jobs in history, that you can keep this going and have people by the billions who have faith in this risen Christ -- if it was a con job, it was the greatest one pulled off. I don't believe it was. I believe every bit of it, that it was a risen Christ.
TANTAROS: Can I just say we all have sort of different political beliefs, and we differ on come issues, but we can come together on this. I mean, we can differ over ObamaCare and little policies here and there, but isn't the real fight that we can all come together on for the morale fiber?
I mean, shouldn't we be reaching higher to save that? Isn't that the real fight for this country?
I mean, I think when the values go, we're gone.
PERINO: I was just thinking about this show and there is a lot of fellowship here.
TANTAROS: There is.
PERINO: And it is really solving the world's problems right here.
BECKEL: Yes. Well, just tune in here with philosophical gem. Number two comes next.
GUILFOYLE: We're out of time. Right. Well, this is --
PERINO: Next up -- Miley Cyrus.
GUILFOYLE: Well, this is nice to be together, "The Five" community on Friday. No wrecking ball here.
Coming up, we'll honor the brave members of our military serving our country during this holiday season and we'll take a look at the new movie "Lone Survivor" starring Mark Wahlberg, which is absolutely a film worth seeing.
We'll be right back. Stay with us.
TANTAROS: We'll have some breaking news for you on "Duck Dynasty" in just a moment. But first, this is the time of the year where we reflect on what's important in our lives and all of us should be very grateful for the brave men and women in the U.S. military.
Now, there are more than 1.4 million active duty personnel, 164,000 of them are deployed around the world, in more than 150 countries.
Now, there is a movie you may want to check out to get a better understanding of the sacrifice that our military makes. It's called "Lone Survivor" and it's based on a true story of four Navy SEALs on a mission to capture or kill a notorious Taliban leader in Afghanistan.
Now, the mission turned deadly after the SEALs were attacked by hundreds of Taliban. Mark Walberg stars as Marcus Luttrell, the only SEAL who survived the deadly ambush in 2005. Here's a look at the trailer.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Listen up, Redwing to go (ph), bad guy. Senior Taliban commander. (INAUDIBLE) killed 20 Marines last week, 20.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Going in with a four-man team, Axelson, myself, Dietz, Marcus.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's a lot more than 10 guys, that is an army.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're good, right. (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody, let's move. Let's really move.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You die for your country and I'm going to live for mine.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
TANTAROS: That looks awesome. Kimberly, "Variety" magazine has asked, why isn't this movie getting the accolades, getting more awards, getting more attention? And it seems like we keep having this discussion, right? We had it with "Zero Dark Thirty", why the director, a female director, was not getting the accolades she deserved. Why do you think that is?
GUILFOYLE: I don't know. I'm hoping he's going to pick up over the
holiday season, and people should really take a close look at this. I think it's an important film.
There is no greater sacrifice than to give your life for this country and what the Navy SEALs do, and the military do every day in and out, and the sacrifices their family pay as well is an important message. The film is very well-done, very accurate, well-produced, and an incredible director and cast.
You've got Mark Wahlberg. You've got Eric Bana, and you have Ben Foster, Emile Hirsch.
I think, you know, it's -- I thought it's a great movie. I recommend it for everybody.
TANTAROS: What do you think, Bob? Why do you think, Bob? Why do you think it didn't get as much buzz as maybe it should have?
BECKEL: Well, let me be -- and I'm not going to dump on the fire here. But frankly we've been at war for over a decade and I think people are tired of it. And I'm not so sure people want to focus in on this very much.
I mean, there was -- you know, you could argue about what you thought about -- not the Afghanistan war but the Iraqi war and I have difference of opinion than Dana and others. But I think people are just -- they've seen enough Americans go over and die and they wonder what the causes are and if they are worthwhile and I think frank think there is fatigue.
TANTAROS: Eric, have you seen the movie? Will you see the movie?
BOLLING: No, I'm dying to see the movie. It looks fantastic.
And in fact, 60 minutes did a piece on it three weeks ago and then they went and followed it. It was a great piece, by the way. Check it out.
GUILFOYLE: Interview with Marcus Luttrell.
BOLLING: Marcus Luttrell, the actual hero, a fantastic piece. And then they backed it up with two weeks of crappy NSA coverage.
But, anyway, yes, I'm dying to see this movie. It looks fantastic.
And I disagree with you, Bob. I think a good war film, it doesn't matter what's going on, is always a great to see. And this one is going to be inspirational, too.
BECKEL: I hope so.
TANTAROS: Can't we use a little reality --
PERINO: Well, look, I think this is a movie about a hero. It is not a movie about Obama. What was the movie -- "Zero Dark Thirty," you couldn't get more coverage on that movie. But that hero was not a soldier.
That hero was President Obama. That's why you got a ton of coverage about it.
GUILFOYLE: And it was edited.
PERINO: And I disagree there is not interest and I understand it, and I'm not a big video gamer, but most of the videogames that are sold, that go -- are all war-related, people want to know what it is like to be one, and it's a really good for recruitment.
We talked in our A-block about asking the questions of who are we, what are our values, how can I be a hero like that guy, how could I be a hero like Marcus Luttrell. So, it's a movie that I would like to see.
But I don't think there's a lack of interest when it comes to war movies necessarily because I think they're always popular. But I think this one in particular didn't get attention because it didn't have to do with the White House.
BECKEL: I'm not so sure I would --
TANTAROS: And they were referring to Hollywood. I mean, you saw, Bob, "The Hurt Locker" received a lot of awards. But often times, as Dana points out, it's touch and go with the Hollywood community when it comes to our --
BECKEL: Well, it seems to go back and forth pretty quickly. But I'd just say one thing about the video games. I don't know if a kid in America doesn't want to blow things up. I mean, I'm not so sure that's an inspiration about going on --
PERINO: Well, if you look at the -- like for example, on the Halloween costumes, what's the most popular Halloween costume ever year, in the past several years, it's increasing, Navy SEALs. So, the popularity I think is there and the recruitment is actually pretty good right now for our troops.
BOLLING: Not Miley Cyrus.
TANTAROS: Very quickly, I took to Twitter and I asked our FIVE fans what they thought the biggest issue was facing our military. Some of the answers, Kimberly, were benefits being cut in Washington, D.C., lack of a real commission, lack of support from a commander-in-chief.
What do you think?
GUILFOYLE: I think I'll go with what the military tells me day in and day out, what Marcus Luttrell personally believes is the rules of engagement, that are the complete hindrance that costs troops their lives on a daily basis. We're not enabling them to do their job --
TANTAROS: To fight to win.
GUILFOYLE: We are micromanaging them and trying to send them out on cultural sensitivity chores, when that is not what they are there to do.
TANTAROS: Quick round. Bob, what do you think?
BECKEL: Well, quickly on this. I mean, look, I think before when there was a cold war. It was very clear. It was us and the communists, right? It was very clear mission. Now, the missions are very complicated and complex, and the wars are all over the place and it's not clearly a defined enemy.
BOLLING: Very quickly, I think it's absolutely disgusting that we cut
-- we look for places to cut and absent-mindedly forgot and made a cut to our military. There's so many places to cut, that's one place. They never
(ph) fix that fast.
PERINO: There might be another -- my last thought is there might be another reason why the movie hasn't done that well, is that perhaps the marketing and the P.R. campaign wasn't as good as other movies. That is possibly a logical conclusion.
TANTAROS: Well, Mark Wahlberg is awesome. I'd watch him on mute.
Directly ahead, a major development in the "Duck Dynasty" controversy, A&E has just released a statement about the future of the show. We will have the exclusive for you when we come back.
BOLLING: This is a FOX News alert. Nine days after A&E suspended "Duck Dynasty" patriarch Phil Robertson for comments they didn't like, the network caved, announcing just moment ago, they will resume filming the series with Phil this spring.
And I'm reading from a statement that just released, according to A&E.
"So after discussions with the Robertson family, as well as consulting with numerous advocacy groups, A&E has decided to resume filming `Duck Dynasty'
later this spring, with the entire Robertson family."
So, let's bring it around.
Kimberly, let's start with you.
BOLLING: Free market at work, I would say. Capitalism.
GUILFOYLE: As you have said. Yes. This is free market at work and this is people's religious beliefs and expressing them and they took a strong position. They didn't back down. I think A&E said that this was going to happen. I think they didn't really have a choice. They kind of jumped the gun on this one and there was a tremendous amount of backlash.
But that's what's great about this country. People have different view points and opinions and this is a family of faith and they stuck by their faith.
BOLLING: Bobbie, the line that sticks out to me, and it's a fairly long press release, says, "after consulting with numerous advocacy groups"
-- what do you think that means?
BECKEL: Well, first of all, you know, a couple of the gay advocacy groups they interviewed right after this did not show as much emotion about this as people had expected. That's one.
But two, this is, frankly, not a very good public relations spin on their part. They said that after consulting with them and after listening to Phil say he didn't want to promote hate, blah, blah, blah, the fact of the matter is, they got inundated with people who wanted them to put this back on.
You're right about the free market. But when they say it's not their core values. Their core values clearly. It has nothing to do with values they're talking about.
BOLLING: When you say, you mean A&E --
BECKEL: Yes, A&E. Don't try to hide yourself behind values, A&E.
BOLLING: You know, I mean, but the Robertson's core values. I mean, they pray after every show. Towards the end of every show, and that had a lot to do with it.
PERINO: One of the things that they write in their statement is, "That is why we reacted so quickly and strongly to a recent interview."
But that can't be true because in a long interview with a major monthly magazine, they would -- presumably they'd known about it before they let it get out of control, and it is not a shock that they're going to continue filming. I think that's good.
And the other thing they say is that they will use this moment to launch a national public service campaign promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people, including presumably people of faith like the Robertsons, I guess.
BOLLING: Let me get Ands here.
TANTAROS: Yes. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It says, "Our core values are centered around creativity, inclusion and a mutual respect. Is that why A&E tried to get them to stop praying and saying Jesus in their show? It's a bunch of baloney. If you look at this, it's about profit, profit.
But even more than, it's not about money. The fact that A&E tried to silence them even before this scandal shows that they have different political beliefs.
It's bigger than money. They don't want them praying. They don't want them talking about Jesus. They don't get that talking about Jesus actually is profitable and what made them profitable.
BOLLING: Let's take a look at them at the family praying at the end of the show. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, you all bow. Father, thank you for another good day on planet earth. Thank you for this fish you provided for us. Thank you for your love, your mercy. It's through him I pray, amen.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOLLING: Bringing it around very quickly, to your point right there.
TANTAROS: Yes, I mean, this is why the statement is just a bunch of nonsense. We've seen and read the stories about before this entire thing, A&E trying to tweak the "Duck Dynasty", to make them fit to their religious beliefs or, you know, to conform to their political beliefs, and the "Duck Dynasty" wouldn't do it. And so, that's why when they talk about mutual respect, they haven't been respectful of their views to begin with.
PERINO: I love it that the great American family today is the "Duck Dynasty". I think it's great for them. I also think that if you haven't watched the show, don't think it is all about religion. The show is a lot about fun and raising children and having relationships and dealing with crazy family members. There's a lot more to it than the prayer at the end.
GUILFOYLE: Wedding rings and beavers in the sink.
BECKEL: You know, the thing that strikes me about this whole thing -- I mean, I think Phil was genuinely surprised by the reaction he got. I think this is the way he had lived, that doesn't excuse -- I still think the language was course and he admitted it was course and it was wrong.
But at least he admitted it.
And I think A&E here is just playing everybody a game here, and nobody is buying at A&E. Why don't you just come out and say you blew it? And now you're back and it's money.
BOLLING: I think as press releases go when you make a mistake, not too shabby. Talk about surprise. I think A&E was surprised at the backlash they received --
BECKEL: Oh, yes.
BOLLING: -- from people across the country.
Also this one, it's probably had a lot of to do with it, I text back and forth with Willie Robertson all the time, good friend, I'm pretty sure
PERINO: The worst name-dropper.
BOLLING: I know.
BECKEL: Yes, you are.
BOLLING: But I'm pretty sure part of what went into that decision was when the family said we stick by Phil. When they said they stick by Phil, A&E has got to go.
BECKEL: Do you think (INAUDIBLE) that was the fastest seven minutes in --
BOLLING: We blow out the fastest seven minutes --
TANTAROS: We did.
PERINO: Let me just check.
BECKEL: On a serious note. I think that's right. I think Dana is right.
TANTAROS: Dana, are you going to check with George Bush?
BECKEL: That movie -- that movie was -- that story line for that entire series is full of every kind of conceivable life's issue and part of
-- the religious part of it is relatively small, when you think about it, except it is about all -- some of the things that happen to the kids on the show, I remember when Phil took out his granddaughter to get a prom dress and he got real upset because it was too short.
PERINO: That happens. That's reality. That's why it's reality TV.
TANTAROS: It happened to you.
BECKEL: Well, when my daughter bought her first dress, I said no, no, no.
GUILFOYLE: But it's about families. You can think back. I can remember when I got my first prom dress with my dad, it was very long.
BECKEL: I bet.
GUILFOYLE: It covered everything.
BOLLING: We've got to go. We're going to leave there. The breaking news, A&E has decided to continue filming the "Duck Dynasty" episodes going forward with Phil Robertson.
All right. When we come back, an annual tradition here on "The Five".
Dana's got some mentoring advice for any young person who wants to hit a home run in their career. If you've got a graduate in the House, tell them to grab a seat. That's right after the break.
Don't go away.
PERINO: Attention millennials. Every year, I write a column for FOXNews.com with my mentoring advice for young people in the workforce.
And here are a few tips to improve your chances for good performance reviews, promotions and hopefully big raises so we can get more advice from Eric on that.
The first one is, more thinking and less feeling in e-mails. And we're going to have a discussion about these. But I'll read these quickly.
In a new e-mail thread, you have to provide a new subject line, especially for your boss. Don't irritate potential mentors. You can try to get on their radar screen but don't irritate them because that makes it worse. Start a weekend reading folder. I love my weekend reading folder and we can explain that.
And my favorite tip of the year is to do your own network audit, because, Eric, one of the things that mentoring research shows is that your network -- who you know over the years, who you keep in touch with is your most important asset, your own personal asset, and a lot of people forget that they even know people that might be able to help them climb the ladder.
BOLLING: Yes. It's the best thing, the best thing you can do to -- specially when you are starting, you just meet to people and hand out cards, hand out resumes, and you never know how it's going to work out.
Remember, my first real job, I was like working downtown, I started handing out resumes. No one called me. I was literally working at a gas station and I had gotten a phone call from a guy who had gotten my resume from another guy who said, do you want to come to Boston and come to work for us? I said, absolutely. Drop that job right away and got to Boston.
Just never when it's going to happen.
Keep them. Keep your contacts hot.
PERINO: You still keep in touch with those people?
BOLLING: I do.
GUILFOYLE: That's a good phrase. Keep your contacts hot. I mean, yes. Like them some love. Water the plants.
BOLLING: Love --
PERINO: And, Kimberly, you said that you like the tip, if there's going to be a new e-mail thread, about a new subject, that you, as a younger person, you shouldn't use an old email threat, an old text to respond on a new subject.
GUILFOYLE: Lazy, lazy, lazy. I love a fresh clean one, like title it and put it out, boom. I'm not saying write one or two word e-mails but I always have an appropriate subject line and refresh it because when people have these email chains like five deep, what is this about? And it gets very confusing. And guess what? People think it's an old e-mail, they pop up back up again, they're going to delete you and then you're going to cry.
PERINO: Very good, very good.
Let me see, Bob, do you like -- you disagreed with one of them or you thought --
BECKEL: You don't irritating mentor, but you also have to keep the pressure up to get in front of them. But I was thinking about what Eric said.
You know, when I kept track, I was doing campaigns and not many of them. But I had one candidate who was assistant secretary of state and I was down fishing in North Carolina and wondering what I will do with my life, and I got a call, and somebody on the phone from the State Department said, how would you like to be a deputy assistant secretary of state? And I said, which state? They said, of the United States.
BOLLING: State of confusion.
BECKEL: Yes, right. I said, (INAUDIBLE), one before, but that was the connection that I kept up with and I kept up in touch with the guy, and boom, I became the youngest deputy assistant secretary of state in history.
GUILFOYLE: We keep telling people you're big time.
BECKEL: I know. That was a long time ago.
PERINO: If a young person that works on Capitol Hill might call you and say, OK, if I have five minutes of your time, tell me how do I have a career exactly like yours? And one of my bonus tips was to try to give up the idea that there's any certain one path that anybody can follow to end up where they think they want to be.
TANTAROS: Right. And it wasn't always doors hoping all of the time.
There were doors that also were closed that I did have to kick down a few times.
We've also talked about this. If somebody gives you the time to sit- down because remember, people are busy, be concise. Have a very specific -
TANTAROS: When people sit down with me and go I don't know what I should do with my life, I'm like I am not a career counselor. But when someone sits down and they say, here's what I'm passionate about, I know there is a job available at X, can you help me? Here's my resume, you know, whatever I need to do, it's a very specific thing that I can take care of.
Also, I love this, Dana, you are so good at this. Attitude is everything. An attitude of gratitude, make superiors lives easier. If you make other people's lives easier in the workplace, they want to help you, they want you around. Be the person everybody wants to work with.
BECKEL: I just want to say one thing, I want to grow up to be just like you. So, how do I do that?
PERINO: Well, first, you got to play professional baseball.
BOLLING: Do over.
PERINO: First, you play professional baseball.
TANTAROS: Who do you play for?
BOLLING: Pirates. The Minor League Pirates.
GUILFOYLE: That's mine.
PERINO: I think it's mine.
The last thing was: more thinking, less feeling meant, don't use little smiley faces in your e-mail. If you finish your project on time, your boss will be happy. You don't have to encourage that and no exclamation points in the subject lines.
PERINO: I hate exclamation points.
OK, 2016 seems like ages away but the Hillary Clinton chatter is heating. How tough will she be to beat? Charles Krauthammer has some comments that might surprise you. You're going to hear from the doctor when we come back.
GUILFOYLE: What is going on? God!
BECKEL: Finally I understand some music that's coming up here.
Election day 2016 is more than two and a half years away, but it seems like it's never too soon to make predictions. A new poll says if the election were held today, which it is not, Governor Chris Christie would be neck and neck with Hillary Clinton. Interesting, but does Hillary have what it takes to be in the White House and win the White House? I have my doubts, too, but Charles Krauthammer has some bold remarks about her possible candidacy.
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CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think the status she enjoys among Democrats is semi divine. It's not a correlation. It's going to be a worship service.
I think she's going to be a rather weak -- if she decides to run, which I think she likely is, she's going to be a weak -- a relatively weak opponent, and Republicans, I think, are going to have a really good shot at the White House.
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BECKEL: All right, agree or disagree? Which I don't. Let's go around the table. We'll start with you.
BOLLING: Love Charles. Brilliant. I totally disagree. I think she will be a good candidate. I think she'll have a boat-load of money, and she'll probably exceed any numbers that we've ever seen before as far as money. And you know, when money happens, the negative advertising happens, and that helps a lot.
However, I will tell you, kind of -- so -- viewers, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) asked Facebook and Twitter people to weigh in on the most important topic of the year. Obama care was far and away No. 1. Surprisingly, Benghazi was No. 2.
So people are still tuned in into Benghazi. This will come back to haunt her in 2016. I guarantee that. What difference does it make at that point. We'll hear it over and over and over, and that will hurt her.
PERINO I think yesterday in the FOX poll asking Democrats what they thought about Hillary Clinton or who they wanted to run. She's at 68 percent approval without even having said that she's going to run. She'll have all the money. She won't have a primary.
Now the weaknesses -- that can actually hurt you, in that when you then go into the general, you're not in -- I guess I would say fighting shape to run against your opponent. But it also can keep -- prevent you from making any mistakes during a primary season. I don't think they should expect a coronation, but I think she will be very, very hard to beat.
TANTAROS: What has she done? I mean, I'm just -- I'm wondering.
She's a professional victim. She has great dance moves. We saw her in the Congo; she was toasting in South America. But really, what has she done?
OK. She tried to do Hillary Care before Obama care. She's going to have to answer those questions. She's got a very thin resume. But here's
what: It doesn't matter. The media is going to anoint her. It doesn't matter. Barack Obama had far less experience than even she had.
TANTAROS: It didn't matter to the media. It will be her turn -- if
2008 was, "It's my turn," it will be, "Dammit, it really is her turn. It's time for a woman."
And Chris Christie, they're already starting with the negative stories. Just this week, is he a bully?
GUILFOYLE: Cover of The New York Times.
TANTAROS: You're going to start to see little stories leak out. And they're going to do everything they can to get that poll we just saw back where Hillary can be on top, if she runs. I actually don't even think she might for health reasons, just a little tidbit out there.
GUILFOYLE: Yes. But, you know, nobody likes a bully, and they're already doing stories against Christie, suggesting that. Like Andrea mentioned, the front page of The New York Times. People are -- Christie's supporters are like, "Wow, if this is true, I really don't like it." You know, it's such a negative stigma in the press.
I think the best thing that can happen for Hillary Clinton is Republicans take control of the House and the Senate, because then it could be essentially two years of, you know, the Democrats saying the Republicans are obstructionist, going against the president, and if there can be some fatigue laid in there, it might help cascade her over the top.
She had to take a step down and a stand down for Barack Obama for her party so that he could become president. That's a fact. So, you know, this is payback for her. Hollywood, money, all of it is going to be there for her.
BECKEL: Let me just -- let me just wrap this up by saying that the polls about presidential elections two and a half years out are about the most meaningless polls you can have. One.
Two, she was his secretary of state. She was a United States senator.
Whether you agree with what she did or didn't do, she does have a pretty thick resume.
But beyond that, Republicans still have to have a nominee. And that means they're going to go through a bitter primary like they did the last time. They're going to move their candidate to the right like they did Mitt Romney, far too far to the right, and not be able to get back to the center where these things are won. I think the Republicans' chances of getting an election of the president are nonexistent.
TANTAROS: What she didn't do was secure an embassy and protect a consulate after numerous warnings, which is a problem. The things that she didn't do more than what she did do.
BECKEL: I will guarantee you there won't be 1,000 votes on Benghazi.
There won't be 1,000 votes on it.
TANTAROS: I will say this. I agree with you on one thing.
Republican candidates need to be very careful, because The New York Times knows one thing. That was her hometown paper when she ran for Senate. How did she win? They painted Rick Lazio as a bully, because he left that podium and made her sign that petition, and she was a victim. And so they have to be very careful. It's tough to run negative against a female.
BECKEL: Yes. And Lazio was a lousy candidate, and he deserved to get what he got.
TANTAROS: That's not true.
BECKEL: "One More Thing" is up next.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Well, it's time now for "One More Thing." I just want to take this opportunity again to encourage you all to watch the FOX New Year's Eve special. It's going to be fantastic. Don't worry:
yours is coming, Dana, pretty soon.
It's going to be great. Bob and I are going to be together at 9 p.m.
Eastern. Live, unplugged, unfiltered. Bob and I together for one hour.
BECKEL: Well, this is...
GUILFOYLE: I'm really not sure what could happen. He mentioned the human Snuggie and us jumping in one together for the sake of FOX News. I'm not too sure about this.
BECKEL: Who are we going to have on with us, because we can talk for an hour, but I think...
GUILFOYLE: This is going to be super exciting. We are going to have "Duck Dynasty" on with us. We're super-excited about that, and I know everybody out there will be, too. There's a lot of mutual fans on the show. And you and I are going to have them.
Bill O'Reilly is going be there and Megyn Kelly. And we've got Ainsley Earhardt and Rick Leventhal. And of course, then superstar Bill Hemmer and Elisabeth Hasselbeck joining in at 10 p.m., taking us through the new year.
I'll have a special outfit on for you, Bob.
BECKEL: Wow, I can't wait for that.
GUILFOYLE: And my beautiful new earrings.
BECKEL: I'm going to do my "One More Thing," the same thing to carry this on, but tell me about the outfit before you get on. But...
GUILFOYLE: I'll send you a picture.
BECKEL: Let's stop saying they're the only superstars. We're coming up there pretty slowly, but we're getting it.
The other thing is there may be -- we're not sure yet -- but you know, I made this commitment that I'm going to lose weight, and I may have some advice on how to do that on New Year's Eve. You might want to listen to that. The person we're trying to get to help me might come as a little bit of a surprise to you, but if not, then Kimberly is going to tell me how to do it.
TANTAROS: Does that mean you're going to give up the tray of donuts and sweets and sugar?
BECKEL: I'm not. I can't. Because the sugar policewoman is here.
Every time I do something, Dana jumps all over me and says, "That had sugar with it."
GUILFOYLE: Bob and I are going to break out my old Thigh Master. It works wonders. If it can do for you what it's done for me, Bob.
BECKEL: If you'll get on -- if you'll get on national television with a Thigh Master, then we're guaranteed a great audience.
GUILFOYLE: I'm going to use it, and you talk.
BECKEL: I want you to get that -- get in that Thigh Master and that will be fine.
GUILFOYLE: You don't mind if I get a little chocolate on the Snuggie?
BECKEL: No, not at all. You just use that baby.
GUILFOYLE: All right. OK.
PERINO: It's like you're the only two in the room.
GUILFOYLE: Boss is going to say, "What were we thinking? Them two?"
I don't know.
BOLLING: I just don't want to see Bob on a Thigh Master. I'll pay anything not to see that.
TANTAROS: I'll pay to see that.
BOLLING: Can I go?
BOLLING: Very quickly, tomorrow morning "Cashing In" at 11:30 a.m.
No, this is a good one. I went to Facebook and Twitter and said, "Tell me what the biggest stories were of 2013, and then we're going to talk about it on "Cashing In." And sure enough, like I said, Obama care by far No. 1.
The second was Benghazi. but close. And in a distant third was a tie between the IRS and the NSA scandals. But it's going to be a good one.
PERINO: Anthony Wiener didn't make the list?
BOLLING: No. Not even close.
GUILFOYLE: Ms. Perino.
PERINO: You know that there's only one thing that could make your New Year's Eve hour better.
TANTAROS: I know. Woof!
PERINO: Jasper. A Jasper appearance would be great.
I want to say hello to my grandchildren -- step-grandchildren, Seth and Rachel. They just arrived today. They're with their parents, Kelly and Warren. So they are my step-grand-twins, seven years old from Scotland, here for a week.
BOLLING: Very nice.
PERINO: There they are with Peter.
TANTAROS: And they call you Grandma America, which is super cute.
PERINO: Grandma America. America. I love that.
TANTAROS: So earlier in the show I talked about this New York Times story, which -- fascinating stuff here, right? -- the keys to happiness -- or it's called -- yes, the keys for happiness: genes, events and then we talked about this earlier...
PERINO: I thought you meant, like, Jordache.
TANTAROS: Values. Genes. Not like physical jeans.
And listen to this: Who are the most happy people in society?
Conservative women by a landslide. The least happy -- no, the least
happy: liberal men. And liberal women are just above that.
BECKEL: I'll tell you anything about conservative Republican women.
They are -- well, they always come off very strange.
BOLLING: All right.
GUILFOYLE: We are happy (ph).
TANTAROS: Don't forget your DVR so you never miss an episode of "The Five." Have a great weekend.
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