CARVILLE: I'm not defending.
O'REILLY: He doesn't want to prevent the crime.
CARVILLE: So don't tell why the leader of the House Republicans in Pennsylvania said we did this because Romney can now --
O'REILLY: I don't know who that is Carville.
CARVILLE: I can do fact check.
O'REILLY: You can point to crazy people anywhere. There's massive amount of entitlement fraud in this country.
CARVILLE: This has nothing to do with voter ID.
O'REILLY: Every citizen should have an I.D. card. Everyone and that would cut down on fraud and a lot of different areas. And it will happen you will see.
CARVILLE: It is a barely existent problem.
O'REILLY: All right.
TANTAROS: But it's still a problem and it's sad that he's defending it. It's really sad that the left is defending this issue. And you are doing it to get votes. These municipal cards are so that illegal immigrants can get healthcare and Social Security and all these other things. It's just sad that this is the difference between the left and the right. We do not make excuses for crimes and fraud. We try to fix it.
O'REILLY: All right I've got to go.
CARVILLE: Ok thank you.
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