• With: Curtis Hubbard, Denver Post editorial page editor

    You run the editorial page in the most powerful paper in the state, and you don't know anything. And all you can do is smear. That's all you can do.

    HUBBARD: That's not true, Bill. As I pointed out earlier, Jessica's Law was --

    O'REILLY: You don't know anything about Jessica's Law. This has been in play for five years out there.

    HUBBARD: Here's what I do know about Jessica's Law.

    O'REILLY: What.

    HUBBARD: No one in law enforcement in Colorado --

    O'REILLY: No one?

    HUBBARD: -- supported it in 2007, --

    O'REILLY: No one?

    HUBBARD: -- 2009 or again this year.


    HUBBARD: In fact, it's only brought up when the republicans are in the minority in Colorado. Not when they had the majority. It's been used against democrats as a wedge issue politically. There's --

    O'REILLY: All right, but you don't know whether you support it or not. All you know is that no one, --

    HUBBARD: I didn't know whether it does more --

    O'REILLY: -- and believe me, I'll get law enforcement from Colorado on here and I'll make you look foolish on that statement. But you don't even know about it.

    And you are the Editorial Director of "The Denver Post" and you don't know --

    HUBBARD: I do know about it. What I don't know, Bill --

    O'REILLY: Well, do you support it or not. Do you support it or not.

    HUBBARD: You have to ask me which version I'm supporting.

    O'REILLY: Which version.

    HUBBARD: I'm supporting the 2007 version that included the 15-year --

    O'REILLY: No, the mandatory 25 to life for rapist, child rapist.

    HUBBARD: This year's -- I think that we have seen in our judicial system that mandatory sentencing oftentimes has unintended consequences. Colorado is --

    O'REILLY: All right, so you don't support it.

    HUBBARD: Colorado has strong sex offender laws. I don't see any reason to change --

    O'REILLY: I've got a dozen, I've got a dozen child rapists doing less than five years in your state, Mr. Hubbard.

    HUBBARD: And they're on lifetime --

    O'REILLY: You need to do a little research about it.

    HUBBARD: -- probation, which is something unique to Colorado --

    O'REILLY: Lifetime probation, ooh. Lifetime probation for rape.

    HUBBARD: Lifetime probation which means --

    O'REILLY: You know, if you had a kid and somebody raped that kid and they got lifetime probation, you'd probably be out there with a gun, Mr. Hubbard.

    HUBBARD: That's in addition to their prison sentences, Bill. And if they violate any of the terms of that probation, they go to prison.

    O'REILLY: Yes, the two or three years that they got -- the two or three years that they got, that's good. The soccer coach that raped the kid and got --

    HUBBARD: There are 2,000 people imprisoned in Colorado.

    O'REILLY: All right. I'm just going to say it. You need to look up Delbert Wallace Stewart.

    You need to find out what that man did, what a Colorado judge gave him, and then you need to come back on the show and tell me you don't need Jessica's Law. All right, Mr. Hubbard, fair enough.

    HUBBARD: I can tell you, I know about that care. Sure, I'm happy to come back and discuss it with you anytime, Bill.

    O'REILLY: All right, very good.