• With: Curtis Hubbard, Denver Post editorial page editor

    This is a RUSH transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," March 13, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

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    BILL O'REILLY: "Factor Followup" segment tonight. Last week, we criticized Speaker of the House, Mark Ferrandino, for not allowing the legislature out there to vote on Jessica's Law.

    Jesse Watters confronted Ferrandino.


    JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: A 41-year-old soccer coach repeatedly raped a 13-year-old girl and only got two years in prison.

    MARK FERRANDINO, SPEAKER, COLORADO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, (D): Specifically, I still do not know the specifics of the cases you're talking about. I'm happy to look at them if you can look at the cases.

    And if we need to toughen the laws in Colorado, we should and we will. But --

    WATTERS: Well, you do need to toughen the laws, with all due respect, sir.


    O'REILLY: In describing Mr. Ferrandino to the national audience, I said he was openly gay, which he is, a fact that is noted in nearly every article written about him.

    Apparently, that offended "The Denver Post" which editorialized on Sunday, quote, "It may not surprise you to learn that a fact-challenge bigoted line of attack came courtesy of a Fox News Channel talking head, specifically Bill O'Reilly."

    "O'Reilly fear-mongering should offend all Coloradans. He was saying 'gay,' but what he wanted his listeners to hear was 'pervert-pedophile'," unquote.

    Joining us now from the mile-high city is the man who wrote that, the editor of "The Denver Post" Editorial Page, Curtis Hubbard.

    So, you've got a nerve calling me a homophobe. Number one, you can't back it up. Your editorial is libelous speculation. Is it not.

    CURTIS HUBBARD, EDITOR, THE DENVER POST EDITORIAL PAGE: Let me correct you on a couple of things just to start. Number one, it's not an editorial. It's my column that appears each week, Sundays, so it's my opinion, not the opinion of the editorial board.

    O'REILLY: All right. But you're the editorial page editor, correct.

    HUBBARD: Correct.

    O'REILLY: OK. Go ahead.

    HUBBARD: So -- and I didn't call you a homophobe but what I did do was call in to question what Representative Ferrandino's sexuality had to do with his opposition to Jessica's Law, which was the point that you were making.

    O'REILLY: OK. And why did I bring up that he was openly gay. What was the context of that description.

    HUBBARD: You were trying to figure why he opposed Jessica's Law. And my question back to you is, what does his sexuality have to do with his opposition.

    O'REILLY: Did you see the report. Did you see the report that we did. Did you see it on television.

    HUBBARD: I did.

    O'REILLY: Not read the transcript.

    HUBBARD: I did.

    O'REILLY: Did you see the report. OK, good.

    HUBBARD: I saw it on television and to make --

    O'REILLY: All right, so here -- I'm going to answer your question. I'm going to answer your question.


    O'REILLY: I described Ferrandino to the audience because the audience doesn't know who the heck he is. And I did it in the context of what his priorities are.

    His priorities are civil unions, all right, which you guys are going to have pretty soon out there, and legalizing marijuana, which you already have out there. And he's a gay marriage proponent, as you know.

    So, I said, here are Ferrandino's priorities, here's what he spends his time on, all right.

    And Jessica's Law, he doesn't want.

    HUBBARD: But, Bill, you didn't introduce them as his priorities. And you can go back and look at the tape.

    O'REILLY: I did absolutely. I said, this is what the guy is promoting.

    HUBBARD: What the tape says is you asked your guest why he opposed Jessica's Law.

    O'REILLY: Right.

    HUBBARD: And then who used his sexuality and his support for gay marriage as rationale for why he would oppose Jessica's Law.