And the second mistake that you make and being a professor, this comes right into your academic background is that you give credibility to a killer. To a guy who is obviously not thinking clearly. He killed four human beings, innocent human beings. You don't give any credibility to him. Anything he says. And everything he says is suspect because of what he did. Do you understand that?

HILL: And that -- and that's why it's important to dis-entangle those two things. I'm not saying investigate the LAPD because Christopher Dorner initiates the conversation about the LAPD or police more broadly. There is already a decade or excuse me century long critique of the LAPD that we need to have. And he puts the spotlight back on it. I'm not legitimizing killing.

O'REILLY: That conversation comes later then. No it doesn't come --

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HILL: No. You don't get to make that decision, Bill. You don't get to decide. There are people who are suffering --

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O'REILLY: No I get to decide here, Doctor. I get to decide.

HILL: You get to decide when we talk about -- when we talk about police brutality, Bill?

O'REILLY: Look don't get yourself in even more trouble here.

HILL: Bill you are not right about this.

O'REILLY: Less than 24 hours -- less than 24 hours after a police officer is murdered by this thug, you are out there with hypothesis. You have got to give it a little time.

HILL: It's not a hypothesis. Bill, it's not a hypothesis to say that police corruption exists. I'm not saying that Christopher Dorner --

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O'REILLY: Not in this case, it doesn't. You can't link it.

HILL: No let me finish the thought, Bill. I'm not saying that Christopher Dorner's manifesto is true or false. That's not my -- that's not my claim.

O'REILLY: You were insensitive, doctor.

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O'REILLY: You were insensitive to the victims' families, that's what you were.

HILL: And like I say and like I say if I was insensitive to the families I offer them my condolences but I'm still --

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O'REILLY: Take the "if" out there doctor, take the "if" out there and you've got it and we appreciate you coming on the program. And I -- I don't want Hill to suffer here because Hill has been a stand-up guy over the years but I absolutely think you're wrong and insensitive and that's my opinion.

HILL: We agree.

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