RUBIO: -- to apply for citizenship --
RUBIO: -- which you have to pass the exam and do all the other stuff.
O'REILLY: All right that seems to be pretty fair. How does that differ with what the President wants?
RUBIO: Well I don't know what the President wants. I mean he talks about pathway to citizenship. My problem with that is this and the way you structure it. You can't do that in a way that's unfair to the people that are doing it the right way. In essence, I can't go to someone who is trying to come here legally, is waiting in line, has paid --
O'REILLY: No these people are ahead of you.
RUBIO: And say you should have come illegally it would have been easier.
O'REILLY: I'm very surprised though, you're taking the lead in the Republican stance of putting this forth and you haven't discussed it with the President? Hasn't he calls you?
RUBIO: No they've never talked with us about it and the truth is look, I -- the way our republic is designed the Congress is supposed to pass laws and the President can decide whether to sign it or not.
O'REILLY: But you're a leader. Shouldn't the President be conferring with leaders in the House and the Senate?
RUBIO: Well we're more than happy to talk to him and explain my principle.
O'REILLY: But he hasn't called?
RUBIO: No, no but -- but here is the bottom line. We're going to work with our colleagues to get something responsible done that's fair but also responsible. We don't want to -- we don't want to incentivize people to come here illegally in the future.
O'REILLY: Look you may know, he's not been very tough on this issue and border security but it's getting better. The stats show it's getting better. I think they have a handle on it now. And I like your program. I think it's fair.
So I want you and President Obama to get on the phone and get this thing so it doesn't turn into a bloody mess.
RUBIO: Maybe we could come on the show together.
O'REILLY: Absolutely. And you got -- I'll give you the whole hour. You guys can come on and we'll sort it out.
O'REILLY: But you know what? I don't know if President Obama wants to solve these problems. I think he wants to destroy the Republican Party, particularly in the eyes of Hispanic American voters. So he's going to make it as hard as possible to get anything done and demonize you guys. I hope I'm wrong but that's what I'm seeing here with the fiscal business and now with the guns and now with this.
RUBIO: Now -- well, I hope you're wrong, too. Because ultimately I mean we have a chance to solve an important issue and do it the right way but I don't think that's their attitude.
O'REILLY: Do you think that I'm wrong?
RUBIO: Well, I don't know.
O'REILLY: Oh, come on.
RUBIO: Here's what I can tell you -- I can tell you that I believe that there are people in the Democratic Party or I should say on the left that would prefer to have immigration as an issue than as a solution.
O'REILLY: Does he want them --
RUBIO: Well, we have to find out. And I hope that the answer is no.
O'REILLY: Would you put in a call to him and see if you can talk to him.
RUBIO: Oh I'm sure we'll be talking to him soon one way or the other.
O'REILLY: Would you let me know.
RUBIO: You don't think he watches this show.
O'REILLY: Well he doesn't watch it he is busy. But he gets a transcript of it.
O'REILLY: But here's what I would like to do. I'd like your office and you to try to set up some meeting with him and with some Republican senator leaders and go over and talk about and then let me know what happens.
RUBIO: Yes all right we'll do that.
O'REILLY: Because that's the only way -- transparency is the only way that's going to get this done. It's the only way that's going to get the fiscal thing done, the gun thing done, and the immigration thing. Transparency.
O'REILLY: If the President of the United States is not going to cooperate with the opposing party we need to report that.