• With: Rick Santorum

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    BILL O'REILLY, HOST: Now for the "Top Story" tonight, joining us from Bedford, New Hampshire, the aforementioned Rick Santorum, who may be the hardest working guy in politics and it has certainly paid off last night. So am I making any mistakes in my analysis, Senator?

    RICK SANTORUM, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think you... I think you have a pretty good accurate, except for the one thing where you talked about me not being able to do particularly well here in New Hampshire. I think we're going to do surprisingly well here. I'm not say we're going to win or anything close to it.

    O'REILLY: Who are you going to take from ? You got... you got 10 percent now. You got momentum coming out of Iowa. But you got to take from somebody. Who are you going to take from?

    SANTORUM: Well, there are a lot of undecided voters up here and a lot of the folks that... that are supporting Governor Romney are supporting him because well, they think he's going to win and you're going to be with the winner.

    And I think a lot of folks are looking not just for the winner here in New Hampshire, but who is going to be the winner long-term? And I think you're going to see our numbers start to... start to pop up in some of these other early primary states. Our numbers are already more than doubled in the CNN flash poll and that was even before the... the announcement and before I even gave either of us came out and spoke last night.

    O'REILLY: All right.

    SANTORUM: So we feel very good. We've been able to raise almost a $1 million today. So...

    O'REILLY: That is amazing.

    SANTORUM: ...we're going to have resources. We're going to... we're going to -- we're going to be a much bigger player than I think everybody anticipates right now.

    O'REILLY: Well, certainly you can't be underestimated based upon your performance last night. Now you are... are you ready to be demonized, because that's going to come and it's going to come hard at you. Are you ready for that? Are you ready to be demonized?

    SANTORUM: This isn't my first rodeo, Bill. I've been in a lot of tough campaigns.

    O'REILLY: All right ok. But now it's a national...

    SANTORUM: You know that.

    O'REILLY: Of course. But it's going to be a national demonization and you're going to be portrayed as an extremist and some of your positions are out of the main stream, according to the polls. Let's run them down: contraception, birth control, you know 90 percent... 98 percent of Americans say contraceptive is fine, 98 percent?

    SANTORUM: Yes.

    O'REILLY: You say that the states should have the right to ban some contraception. That's right off the bat going to be a big one.

    SANTORUM: Well, the states have a right to do a lot of things. That doesn't mean they should do it. Someone asked me if the states have the right to do it? Yes. They have the right to do it, they shouldn't do it. I wouldn't vote for it if they did. It doesn't mean they don't have the right to do it.

    As you know, Bill, you're a Catholic, Catholic Church teaches contraceptive is something you shouldn't do.

    O'REILLY: I know, I know but it's... that's the question majority of Catholics...

    SANTORUM: So when I was asked the question on contraception I said I didn't support it.

    O'REILLY: Ok but the majority of Catholics do not follow that and it's almost like a meat on Friday thing, it's not that Jesus said it. It's not a dogma. It's a doctrine made by man.

    I'm not justifying it and I'm not giving my opinion one way or another about it. I'm just pointing out that they're going to come after you on that and they're going to come after you on gays in the military, that you want to rescind that.

    SANTORUM: Well...

    O'REILLY: And they're going to come after you on gay marriage that you would have the federal government rescind the marriage that... marriages license already given, you would have them rescind it. All I'm saying to you is... I'm not debating the issue with you, saying you're right or wrong. I'm not doing that tonight.

    I'm saying that this is going to be put on you, that you're an extremist man, out of the main stream. How are you going to reply to that?

    SANTORUM: Well, I don't think being for marriage between a man and woman is extreme, Bill.

    O'REILLY: To rescind... rescind it after a licenses already given. That's a big deal.

    SANTORUM: The federal government would have to pass a constitutional amendment and if the Constitution says that marriage is between a man and woman, then things that are inconsistent with that would not... would be inconsistent with the Constitution so...

    O'REILLY: Would you be doing that if you were elected president? Would you be campaigning for a constitutional amendment in that way?

    SANTORUM: I would... well, if you pass a constitutional amendment that says marriage...

    O'REILLY: So would you... would that be... would that be in the forefront of your... of your administration?

    SANTORUM: As you know, Bill, if you've been following me out on the trail, I haven't been talking a lot about this.

    O'REILLY: No.

    SANTORUM: Although I strongly believe in it. What I've been talking about as I did last night on my acceptance speech where didn't talk about this issue, I talked about the importance of getting this economy going and talked about my grandfather and coming here for freedom. And this is the fundamental issue in this campaign is whether government is going to be big and obtrusive and telling people how to manage their... their lives or... and are they going to support the basic values of faith and family that allow government to be limited and allow our economy to be strong.

    Those are the things I talked about and did across Iowa. I'll be talking about those things here in New Hampshire.

    O'REILLY: All right so you're going to be de-emphasize...

    SANTORUM: And those are basic American values and principles.