• PERRY: Right.

    VAN SUSTEREN: But you know, before it was the drug cartels shooting at each other. Then you got people caught in the crossfire. Then you get sort of the -- the people in the drug rehabs or -- who -- someone'll go in and execute 17 of them and do horrible things. But now -- but now this new single incident, a car bomb with a remote control set off by a cell phone - - it changes it a little bit.

    PERRY: Well, we have seen the cartels continually changing their operations, their mode of operation, as we probe in. As we find out where they're doing business, et cetera, they will change their tactics. I mean, these are very sophisticated individuals who have substantial amounts of money. Their weaponry is highly sophisticated. They use fully automatic 7.62, I mean, big rounds. These people mean business. And until we get people on the border, we have the boots on the ground to be able to impact them and they know we mean business, they're going to continue to control the border.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Governor, if the president won't take a tour with you, you know, we'll be happy to come down with our cameras, take a tour and look at it, show it to our viewers. So maybe you'll invite us to take a look...

    PERRY: Come on down. We'll be happy to show it to you.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Governor, thank you.

    PERRY: Greta, thank you.