VAN SUSTEREN: Not all of them, though. The numbers are split.

    PALIN: You're going to find in 2012, people are going to get elected again on the idea of the promise of repealing "Obamacare." They know it's killing jobs. They know that premiums are going up. They know it doesn't fix any problem, and they know that we were not told the truth by the White House as it pertained to information, facts, numbers that have to do with "Obamacare." We were told that it was going to reduce premiums. We were going to told -- be told that, no, overall, this is going to help provide more health care coverage!


    VAN SUSTEREN: ... what I don't like. There are some teacher's pets involved. I don't like the idea -- I mean, the whole point of it, as I understand it, it's very complex, 2,700 pages, very complicated and I think it's very poorly written, but that's an aside. But everyone is going to pay into the pot so that there would keep -- there's enough money in the pot to keep the premiums down. But there are a significant number of corporations and unions, a lot of big people -- they have gotten waivers.

    PALIN: Yes.

    VAN SUSTEREN: And so they're not paying into the pot. And I'm thinking, like, Well, why are they teacher's pet? Why do they get out of it?

    PALIN: It's a joke! And it's unfair! And not only is "Obamacare" unconstitutional, and that's going to be proven in the courts, but Greta, a thousand waivers that have given -- been given to friends, I'm going to call them, teacher's pets, by the Obama administration!

    VAN SUSTEREN: (INAUDIBLE) call it that. That's my sarcasm.

    PALIN: Well, and there hasn't been real clarity there in explaining why some folks get waivers and why other people don't. How about a waiver for the entire country? And it is called repeal! Let's get rid of it and let's fix health care in this country with market-based solutions that have been proposed over and over again by the Republicans.

    VAN SUSTEREN: You agree that something had to be done?

    PALIN: Something had to be done.

    VAN SUSTEREN: You don't like what was done.

    PALIN: Something had to be -- but it has to be constitutional. The federal government cannot force American citizens to purchase anything! It's a violation of the commerce clause and...

    VAN SUSTEREN: We'll see. I mean, I don't know -- that's another fight about why it -- why it isn't in the Supreme Court now...


    PALIN: If they're going to force us to purchase health care, what next? You know, this is a slippery slope and it's a dangerous place for Obama to have led us with this health care reform. It's government takeover of one-sixth of our economy, and we can do better.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I don't know why the Supreme Court isn't deciding this and why we're hung up on -- but I'm going to talk to Ken Cuccinelli, AG, in a second, from Virginia. The Supreme Court should be deciding this now. Get it over with.

    PALIN: Well, it should be because, you know, we got other battles next. But "Obamacare" is -- is the big battle. That's a big battle in our economy. It's right up there in terms of importance when we talk about our debt and other things that are stymieing the growth and creating uncertainty in our economy. "Obamacare" is one of the big ones.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Governor, stand by. We're going to take a quick break.

    Coming up: Congresswoman Michele Bachmann is yelling foul. She says she gets treated differently than President Obama, that there is sexist divide. We're going to ask Governor Palin about this one.




    VAN SUSTEREN: Are politics fair? Do women politicians who make a mistake get the same treatment as men when they make a mistake?

    We know what Minnesota Congressman Michele Bachmann thinks. She recently made a big gaffe making a mistake about the start of the Revolutionary War and she got hammered by the media for her gaffe. Congresswoman Bachmann admits her mistake but she is now crying foul. She says women especially conservative women, get treated more harshly than men for gaffes.

    She cited two examples -- President Obama's gaffe when he said there are 57 states and another one where he said 10,000 were killed in tornadoes in Kansas. What does Governor Palin think? I confess I've made a bazillion mistakes myself. Are women treated differently on gaffes?

    PALIN: Of course. Women are held to a different standard in all areas. My point is going to be, so what. Let's work harder, produce more and better, and get over it. I'm through whining about a liberal press that holds conservative women to a different standard because it doesn't do any good to whine about it.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Bill Maher just used vulgarity with you. You may say you are over it. But it is degrading to women, that's the problem. Governor Sarah Palin is over it, and it's water off a duck's back. You got a daughter, your daughter's friends, everyone watching has a mother, and it is degrading. It does need to be fair.

    PALIN: We wish that it were fair. Nobody has promised life was going to be fair. In politic, it really isn't fair. There's scrutiny, double standards and all that. Again, when it affects me personally, I'm dealing with it in a different way that others who want to bring more light to it and demand that Bill Maher apologize or that NOW defend me for something that was said. By the way, I need NOW's defense like a fish needs a bicycle. I don't want them to defend me.

    My point is when a shot is taken at me, it is water off the duck's back because I know the important things we need to concentrate on, especially the national and international issues important that our country. You are right when it comes to other women, my daughters, you Greta, if somebody says something that is not true or is spun in such a -- I'm not going to retreat. I will reload and tell them what I think about them and hold them accountable for what they say about other women. In that respect, it is not fair.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I don't think it is conservative women who get it. I've seen vicious things about Leader Pelosi. I've seen horrible, vicious things about Secretary of State Clinton. I don't think it is liberal. I actually think some of the worst offenders are women in the media who let it happen. If they don't politically agree with the person they let it happen.

    PALIN: I don't think I've ever -- I don't think hive heard hosts on Fox say the things that hosts on MSNBC would say or HBO. I've heard that said about conservative women.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I've heard it about conservatives. I've been around the block enough to know I've seen some of the horrible things about the two women I just identified. It is unacceptable. If you don't agree with the woman, then you laugh. If you agree with the woman, you are appalled.

    PALIN: You know, I wish there was more civility, I guess. We teach our kids to -- they need to be speaking kindly to and you have adults on the air saying very vulgar things. Again, we need to concentrate on what really matters in this world. There aren't enough hours in a day to be consumed with things like that, Greta. I, anyway, have got to be focused on things that I can do to help affect change this country.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I've paid attention to your trip in India. You left the door open to run for president in a speech. It was asked of you and you mentioned it. Where are you on this?

    PALIN: I'm still not going to close the door at this time.

    VAN SUSTEREN: It is farther open like an inch or more open or closed?

    PALIN: Knowing that all of us can be so engaged, you don't need a title. You don't need an office to make a difference, I'm proof of that. If I were to choose not to run at this stage in my life -- I'm tempted, because I'm still wondering who the heck is going to be out there willing to serve the American people for the right reasons. Not for ego, not for special interests. Not with partisanship that will get in the way to do what is right to get the economy back on the right track and strengthen national security. Who else is out there who wants to do this?